Game of Thrones S3 episode 6 (spoiler warning!)

[jonesy]

Esmé Bianco interview about her departure from the show:

http://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/episodes/3/26-the-climb/interview/esme-bianco.html

 

[Grumpy RPG Reviews]

It was also used as a joke for the readers benefit in the Podrick and the prostitutes scene.

Oh, thaaat Meereenese Knot.

Anyway, now that she is dead, is the show more inline with the books or just this drive them further apart?

 

[jonesy]

Anyway, now that she is dead, is the show more inline with the books or just this drive them further apart?

Umm. I guess it is more inline now. But some characters are now merged together to avoid character bloat and the show is going to take its own path through the storyline from this point on because of this. I expect all the major things will stay the same.

Near the end of next season the show will become an amalgam of all of the remaining books since Feast and Dance happen at the same time from different points of view, so we are at the stage where reading the books at the same time won't be possible without spoilers (if anyone is doing that). This season already has one storyline which is actually a flashback in the latest book.

 

[NewJeffCT]

Oh, thaaat Meereenese Knot.

Anyway, now that she is dead, is the show more inline with the books or just this drive them further apart?

Well, this season has stuck closer to the book than Season 2... other than Melisandre visiting Gendry & Arya last night. And, they've scaled things back a bit - in the book, Mance sent 120 men to climb the wall - on the show, it was 20, and only 4 survive. (Though, it was also the Magnarr of Thenn, not Tormund...). The 120 men led an full out attack on Castle Black - Ygritte, Tormund, the warging guy and Jon can't mount an attack on the wall.

 

[NewJeffCT]

It was a plot structure problem GRRM was having when he was writing A Dance With Dragons.

Edit:
It was also used as a joke for the readers benefit in the Podrick and the prostitutes scene. "She is the only one who can perform the Meereenese Knot".

To be more specific - in the book, Danerys is in the city of Meereen and the readers all want her to get to Westeros. However, a bunch of characters were all journeying to Meereen and Martin referred to the plot problem of getting everybody there and then back to Westeros as the Meereenese Knot - including

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Tyrion, Viktarion Greyjoy, the exiled by Dany Jorah Mormont, Archmaester Marwen, Arya Stark (maybe), and, of course, Ser Barristan and Dany.

- in a somewhat logical way and without having to spend a whole book doing it.

 

[jonesy]

(Though, it was also the Magnarr of Thenn, not Tormund...)

In addition to that, characters that I can think of that have been merged together (no actual plot spoilers, just a character list):

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Orell + Varamyr Sixskins
Gendry + Edric Storm
Loras + Willas + Garlan
Melisandre + Ghost of High Heart
Reek (the original) + Ramsay Snow

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

My original theory regarding the longtime character killed in this episode

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was that Ros was fail-safe for the writing of the plot.

Man, and she

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was the one charcter I most looked forward to seeing naked every week.

And Joffrey, well

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I'm not sure whether quick or efficient are the right adjectives, but

you have to love to hate him.

The deaths of

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Dany

and

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Jon Snow

you really have to watch out for, but don't say I didn't warn you.

 

[Grumpy RPG Reviews]

...in a somewhat logical way and without having to spend a whole book doing it.

Oh come on. This is George Triple R Martin doing the writing - the solution is simple.

Kill every single one of the characters. Slowly. While their parent/lover/wing-man-for-bar-crawls watches and is held back.

 

[NewJeffCT]

Oh come on. This is George Triple R Martin doing the writing - the solution is simple.

Kill every single one of the characters. Slowly. While their parent/lover/wing-man-for-bar-crawls watches and is held back.

I think Martin made a joke once that the final book is going to be 1,500 pages of snow blowing across a dead landscape.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

I think Martin made a joke once that the final book is going to be 1,500 pages of snow blowing across a dead landscape.

He must be inspired by Jordan's Winter's Heart, then.