I have two RPG websites bookmarked on my browser and on my phone - Paizo.com and ENWorld.org. I played D&D 1E, 3.0 and 3.5. Tried 4E, didn't like it. I'd been a subscriber to Dungeon and Dragon magazines, so I knew the caliber of Paizo's work, tried Pathfinder, and liked it. But if Pathfinder hadn't existed, I just woulda' kept at it with my 3.5 books and probably wouldn't have bought anything other than a few more old 3PP 3.5 pdfs. There's no way I would spent any money on 4E after I bought the first 3 core books. And, most likely, if I'd been unable to find a 3.5 community to keep playing with, I probably would have left RPGs for good. So it wasn't just a choice between 4E and Pathfinder, and if there were no such thing as Pathfinder I would have played 4E. I would have left the hobby, and so would a lot of other people I know (mostly people of my age group who have been playing off-and-on since 1E). The community may be fractured, but that wasn't caused by Paizo. I'd say it had a lot more to do with WotC putting out a product that a lot of people didn't like and having business model that intentionally broke with a past that me and a lot of other old grognards identified with. I don't have any animosity toward WotC, I just made a choice to take my business elsewhere, and certainly none towards 4E or 5E players - good for you, I hope enjoy it, the more of us in this hobby the better. ENWorld has always been great, I've always come here for industry news, less so for rules discussions now because ENWorld's discussions are more D&D-focused than Pathfinder, but that's fine, I'm still here. Heck, I chipped in to rebuild the server after the Great Crash. In the end, I think diversity and competition is good for the hobby and the industry. More out there to try, and I'll support the ones I like, regardless of the brand name. I might even buy the 3 5E core rule books one of these days... but only to mine for ideas for my Pathfinder game.