Breakdaddy
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I hope you cats at PCGen get permission to put the new Everquest RPG into PCGen, I played my first game of it this weekend with just the PHB and the stuff at www.eqrpg.com and it truly kicks arse!
Gamers Opinion of PCGen (No Rants)
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Radiating Gnome
Adventurer
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Now that' I've had my copy of E-tools for a couple of days, I can say one thing with a lot more confidence. I love PC-Gen.
I've been a PCGen user since the early 2.something days. I liked it when I first got it, have had learning curves now and then when changes went through, but by and large I've had very little trouble with it.
When the 3.0 edition came out, with it's limited data set and a few other changes, I actually drifted a bit and decided to order the E-tools and see what they were like. And, while there are things that I like about the e-tools, I'm going to be downloading the latest version of PCgen and probably keeping my characters on that instead of the E-tools.
Not that there's a lot that's wrong with the e-tools. On the contrary, they're a pretty slick package, but they are limited by their limited dataset, I don't have the time to put in all of the supplement books, and other users are only getting started. E-tools still have a lot of growing to do.
-rg
Now that' I've had my copy of E-tools for a couple of days, I can say one thing with a lot more confidence. I love PC-Gen.
I've been a PCGen user since the early 2.something days. I liked it when I first got it, have had learning curves now and then when changes went through, but by and large I've had very little trouble with it.
When the 3.0 edition came out, with it's limited data set and a few other changes, I actually drifted a bit and decided to order the E-tools and see what they were like. And, while there are things that I like about the e-tools, I'm going to be downloading the latest version of PCgen and probably keeping my characters on that instead of the E-tools.
Not that there's a lot that's wrong with the e-tools. On the contrary, they're a pretty slick package, but they are limited by their limited dataset, I don't have the time to put in all of the supplement books, and other users are only getting started. E-tools still have a lot of growing to do.
-rg
Hardhead
Explorer
PCGen kicks arse
PCGen kicks ass. Though it is hard to learn, once you get the hang of it, it lets me make all my characters super-fast. As for speed issues, yes, it runs poorly on older computers. *shrug* On the other hand, if it wasn't Java-based, I wouldn't use it anyway, since I own Macs.
Since I started using it, I've found it indespensible in creating NPCs, especially high-level ones. I can make a 18th level Fighter/Cleric/Knight of the Chord (BoEM2) in about ten minutes, INCLUDING purchasing gear, where it normally takes me 45 minutes or more for that kind of thing. Indeed, I've gotten to the point that I don't buy books unless they're supported by PCGen.
The exclusion of non-SRD stuff makes it much less useful, unfortunately. I think WotC is just doing it because PCGen is soooo much more functional thatn E-tools. Frankly, I think they're being asses by holding fan-created stuff to the OGL, when before they said it was OK for fans to do whatever they wanted (provided they didn't use WotC characters, logos, trademarks, and didn't make any money off of it).
I remember TSR being similarly mean to their fans, and look what happened as a result. It's just another symptom of the coporate culture that seems to have taken over WotC in the last year or two, though. *sigh*
Anyway, like I said, I don't see why the PCGen folks are being singled out over the SRD thing, while millions of other fan-created stuff (including a few other character generators) isn't. Well, actually, I do. It's because PCGen threatens E-tools. Oh well. For my part, I offer my undying support for PCGen. It really is a great program.
Kudos to all the D&D fan/programers that have put so much time into it.
PCGen kicks ass. Though it is hard to learn, once you get the hang of it, it lets me make all my characters super-fast. As for speed issues, yes, it runs poorly on older computers. *shrug* On the other hand, if it wasn't Java-based, I wouldn't use it anyway, since I own Macs.
Since I started using it, I've found it indespensible in creating NPCs, especially high-level ones. I can make a 18th level Fighter/Cleric/Knight of the Chord (BoEM2) in about ten minutes, INCLUDING purchasing gear, where it normally takes me 45 minutes or more for that kind of thing. Indeed, I've gotten to the point that I don't buy books unless they're supported by PCGen.
The exclusion of non-SRD stuff makes it much less useful, unfortunately. I think WotC is just doing it because PCGen is soooo much more functional thatn E-tools. Frankly, I think they're being asses by holding fan-created stuff to the OGL, when before they said it was OK for fans to do whatever they wanted (provided they didn't use WotC characters, logos, trademarks, and didn't make any money off of it).
I remember TSR being similarly mean to their fans, and look what happened as a result. It's just another symptom of the coporate culture that seems to have taken over WotC in the last year or two, though. *sigh*
Anyway, like I said, I don't see why the PCGen folks are being singled out over the SRD thing, while millions of other fan-created stuff (including a few other character generators) isn't. Well, actually, I do. It's because PCGen threatens E-tools. Oh well. For my part, I offer my undying support for PCGen. It really is a great program.
Kudos to all the D&D fan/programers that have put so much time into it.
Femerus the Gnecro
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WizarDru said:
Oh... this was WAY before OSX, and thus way before native Java based applications.
I haven't had a chance to try it on a Mac since then. Unfortunately, I haven't enough money to buy a new mac.
-F
zukie51262
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PCGEN ROCKS
In a nut shell this is the most detailed D&D program I have ever seen regarding PC, Monsters or whatever, and I have been playing since 1st eddition, only used the 2nd eddition core rules once did'nt like it deleted it (a waste of about 30 bucks).
As far was I am concerened working with the list files is no more then working with your data base, just have to use the right tags in the right place to get the program data where ya want it.
As some one said earlier he wanted this program or hinted around this point to replace books. HUH??????? First Im a DM and player and if one of my players during game time told me of a new spell he found in a program and put it on his character sheet but didnt have the book or rather source material to back this up he doesnt have the spell. Im sorry but anyone can but a spell on a charater sheet.
Other then that this program rocks and GREAT JOB TO ALL.
In a nut shell this is the most detailed D&D program I have ever seen regarding PC, Monsters or whatever, and I have been playing since 1st eddition, only used the 2nd eddition core rules once did'nt like it deleted it (a waste of about 30 bucks).
As far was I am concerened working with the list files is no more then working with your data base, just have to use the right tags in the right place to get the program data where ya want it.
As some one said earlier he wanted this program or hinted around this point to replace books. HUH??????? First Im a DM and player and if one of my players during game time told me of a new spell he found in a program and put it on his character sheet but didnt have the book or rather source material to back this up he doesnt have the spell. Im sorry but anyone can but a spell on a charater sheet.
Other then that this program rocks and GREAT JOB TO ALL.
Nine Hands
Explorer
I LOVE PCGen. It provides enough flexibility with enough data files. The one problem I have with E-tools is the current lack of this flexibility.
PCGen does exactly what I need it to do. The LST files are simple enough for me to work with and if I have a problem a competent LST monkey is only an e-mail away.
The interface has gotten better and still needs some work. Personally, I don't like the interface of E-tools much better
PCGen does exactly what I need it to do. The LST files are simple enough for me to work with and if I have a problem a competent LST monkey is only an e-mail away.
The interface has gotten better and still needs some work. Personally, I don't like the interface of E-tools much better
DM's Familiar is not a character generator - it's a DM's tool to assist in running and organizing his game. Never been a character generator, never will be.
In fact, the most recent version now supports the importing of character stat blocks from other programs (I support E:Tools and PCGen right now).
DMFTodd said:
I wasn't trying to knock DM's Familiar, and I know it doesn't claim to be a character generator, however you can add your character to the application, which is kinda like generating it.... err sorta... ok no it isn't your just keying it in off a character sheet
I do like the combat board, its my favorite feature of the program, I just haven't decided if I want to drop the cash for it. If it was like half the price it is now I wouldn't think twice but for some reason I keep thinking I could program a similiar app myself, of course who has the time... bleah
Re: Re: I want to like PCGen....
Maybe I should export the characters at that point and use a different app for tracking Hitpoints and what not
This might be difficult since it was a ghostwise halfling made in 2.7.3 I think... The newer versions of course can't have FRCS stuff in it. I just pulled up the sheet in 2.7.3 and the load is medium... Bingo that would explain the skills, he had light written on his character sheet, then I figured out it was cus I had him carrying his Repeating Xbow, which he left in a weapon cache...voila... SO to sum it up I am an idiot and PC Gen was right
Mostly when I load multiple characters, for example I want to load the whole party (7 characters) so maybe I can utilize the 'Gm Screen'. Editing hp's on the screen becomes near impossible because it takes literally minutes to switch between each character... I am afraid to even start adding NPC's as wellmerton_monk said:
Maybe I should export the characters at that point and use a different app for tracking Hitpoints and what not
Hm - I have a bachelor's in math, so the math bit is important to me.
This might be difficult since it was a ghostwise halfling made in 2.7.3 I think... The newer versions of course can't have FRCS stuff in it. I just pulled up the sheet in 2.7.3 and the load is medium... Bingo that would explain the skills, he had light written on his character sheet, then I figured out it was cus I had him carrying his Repeating Xbow, which he left in a weapon cache...voila... SO to sum it up I am an idiot and PC Gen was right
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