Gaseous Form to avoid poison?

[coyote6]

Potions are not limited to 4th level spells. Wands are.

True. However, barring Master Alchemists & their special abilities (or similar prestige classes), potions are limited to 3rd level spells.

(Hmm, how unbalancing would a Master of Wands prestige class, with the ability to craft wands with spell beyond 4th level, be?)

On the question at hand -- I can see going either way with it; both approaches seem sensible to me. I think I'd probably fall on the "delays secondary poison effects" side, for balance reasons.

But hey, as a one-time exception, I see nothing wrong with the GM letting a player slide. Magic isn't physics; sometimes, 2+2=The Ninth Name of the Argent Gate, rather than 4. Maybe the character did something in the last week that impressed some god, and said god granted a boon.

 

[Xahn'Tyr]

Hey, I found a great bit of information under the "delay poison" spell. This shows that a poison can linger around waiting for you to become un-immune. So anyway, you turn gaseous and are immune until you come back. Then ERK! (thud)...

The subject becomes temporarily immune to poison. Any poison
in the subjects system, or any poison the subject is
exposed to during the spells duration, does not affect the
subject until the spell has expired. Delay poison does not cure
any damage that poison may have already done.

In the case of Gaseous Form, I would also rule that you cannot be "exposed" to new poison while gaseous.

 

[kreynolds]

kreynolds has been smoking the good stuff today

Huh?

 

[bloodymage]

spell duration question

A question was asked about how spell durations would work on someone in gaseous form, specifically the Poison spell. IMO any spell which could not affect a gas or affect a person in gaseous form would not be effective while in that form. If the spell duation expired before the PC again becomes corporeal then no damage (or no further damage) is taken from that spell. This, of course, is different from the "countdown, pause, countdown" of an actual poison.

 

[Forrester]

Huh?

I believe he was referring to your statement that potions aren't limited to 4th level spells. It seemed as though you were saying that there can be potions of any level.

Of course, potions are limited to 3rd level spells, and Neutralize Poison potions exists because of them thar druids. But you knew that.

 

[kreynolds]

I believe he was referring to your statement that potions aren't limited to 4th level spells. It seemed as though you were saying that there can be potions of any level.

That's what I thought he was saying. Thus, the big fat "Huh?".

Of course, potions are limited to 3rd level spells...

No, they most certainly are not. Check the DMG and page 74 of the Tome & Blood. Any spell can be made into a potion, but it's double the cost of a 3rd level or lower potion. The formula for making any level spell into a potion is spell level x caster level x 100, as opposed to a normal 3rd level or lower potion price of spell level x caster level x 50. Now you see why I said "Huh?".

 

[Forrester]

I don't know about what Tome and Blood might have (unofficially) changed, but I do know this:

Brew Potion [Item Creation]
Prerequisite: Spellcaster level 3rd+.
Benefit: The character can create a potion of any spell of 3rd level or lower that the character knows and that targets a creature or creatures.

Gee, I wonder why everyone thinks you can only brew potions of third spells level and lower . . .

I guess you *have* been smoking the funny stuff. "A spell of any level can be made into a potion".

*puff* *puff*

 

[Negative Zero]

now, now boys, play nice. lets not get antagonistic

i think, uless you rule that gaseous form temporarily suspends time with respect to spell durations, then it would negate the secondary effect of hte poison. of course, the initial damage would still apply. if it does suspend time for spells and such, then the effects would continue as normal when the potion's effects end.

i also agree with coyote6, it IS magic after all. not to mention the fact that if you are the DM, magic doesn't even need to be an excuse for you. you want to save the PC? do it! if you feel bad about showing preferential treatment to a player, then find a way to make him "work it off." perhaps it's a minor intervention by a deity who's had their eye on the group, and now demands a small task. next adventure hook perhaps?

~NegZ

 

[Xarlen]

I don't know about what Tome and Blood might have (unofficially) changed, but I do know this:

Gee, I guess we're still keeping the Polymorph Other, and Polymorph self from the first printing of the PHB, too, considering it's in the PHB.

 

[Xarlen]

I don't know about what Tome and Blood might have (unofficially) changed, but I do know this:

I guess we're still keeping the Polymorph Other, and Polymorph self from the first printing of the PHB, too, considering it's in the PHB.