gauntlet of rust

[Caravane]

I need some help to dertimine if someone who make an attack with a gauntlet of rust. If he miss, does he be abble to touch the armor anyway and then the armor lost AC cause of the gauntlet ? How may I rule this situation to know if the attack make some dust damage to metal if he hit or not?

thanks

 

[Caravane]

when I talk about gauntlet of rust, it's like the druid spell.
Sorry for my english.

 

[Quidam]

I'd say that if you're attacking with a Gauntlet of Rust, you're not attacking to damage your opponent. I'd rule it as a touch attack that deals no damage but affects the armor only, which means you don't include the armor bonus when determining the defender's AC.

 

[Gromm]

I'd say that if you're attacking with a Gauntlet of Rust, you're not attacking to damage your opponent. I'd rule it as a touch attack that deals no damage but affects the armor only, which means you don't include the armor bonus when determining the defender's AC.

You'd be right. Its a touch attack, you touch the armor but don't do damage. I think discussions on touch spells with unarmed attacks (ie a monk with Shocking Grasp cast), have decided that you could do it, but you use full AC and the touch misses if the attack misses; though I could be wrong on the last part.

 

[BigAl]

One of my campaigns has a monk who uses chill touch in concert with unarmed attacks. If an attack misses the targets normal AC, there is no unarmed damage. However, the touch attack may still be triggered if the hit was enough to hit vs touch attack AC - this is a glancing blow that doesn't penetrate armour but does actually touch it.

This may be a bit house-ruleish - I know one of the splatbooks simply states that if you are making an unarmed attack with a touch spell active, the touch spell doesn't go off if the attack misses vs the normal AC of the target. This approach seems a bit simplistic to me, though.

- Al