D&D (2024) GenCon 2023 - D&D Rules Revision panel

[Reynard]

No, pushing things out for "playtesting" and then never bothering with it again isn't how creative development works.

Iteration matters. Not testing it once and then throwing it away if it doesn't start a hype train on the internet.

If it is a bad idea, you don't need to iterate it.

 

[MockingBird]

If I'm not mistaken they said the first UA articles are going to be experimental. They told us that from the start.

 

[Emberashh]

If it is a bad idea, you don't need to iterate it.

Thats not how creative development works. You don't know if an idea is genuinely bad until you iterate on it.

 

[Reynard]

Thats not how creative development works. You don't know if an idea is genuinely bad until you iterate on it.

That is a gross generalization. Some ideas sound good but you only need to see them implemented once in order to realize that they are in fact bad. I'm not sure what kind of creative development work you do, but I would be shocked if you have never encountered this phenomenon before.

 

[tetrasodium]

They'll follow up with an actual book for DMs, though, right? Right?

excellent meme reference that looks to be spot on given the course demonstration set over the last 6 packets.

 

[tetrasodium]

The OP shows that packets 10+ will be used to playtest DM facing items.

At current rates we should start seeing packet 10 sometime around 2025 or 2026. That puts it just in time for the simultaneous 2024 PHB+DMG release thanks to the new hires of doc brown Frank Parker & the unnamed dinner host.

 

[Emberashh]

That is a gross generalization. Some ideas sound good but you only need to see them implemented once in order to realize that they are in fact bad. I'm not sure what kind of creative development work you do, but I would be shocked if you have never encountered this phenomenon before.

If you give up after a single attempt you're not developing anything at all. It doesn't matter what it is.

And I think you're also conflating ideas with executions. You can tell if an execution is a dead end on the first go. That doesn't mean the idea is a dead end.

 

[Parmandur]

There is no way they are going to get through that many packets before the 2024 books right? This is going to have to be after the release tweaks, probably to online tools

Well, we are getting Packet 7 in a couple weeks, then probavly 8 in October, and finishing up the PHB tests with 9 in December. That gives a good 6-8 months before the new PHB drops, which h is plenty of time for them to finish that up and print.

Then they put out at least 1 packet in Q1, maybe 2 or 3, and that's plenty of time to finish the other two by Christmas.

 

[Reynard]

If you give up after a single attempt you're not developing anything at all. It doesn't matter what it is.

And I think you're also conflating ideas with executions. You can tell if an execution is a dead end on the first go. That doesn't mean the idea is a dead end.

I think you are making a distinction without a difference.

 

[aco175]

It is interesting to spend most of the playtest period prior to publishing on things that likely wont ever see the light of day again, and to cram the real playtest into the relative last minute.

PHB2 coming Summer 2024