General Discussion Thread IX

[Patlin]

I got a question.

A fire just started in Orussus in my tournament adventure. Nothing major, a few house, but enough to make me think: how does Orussus can contain a fire?

Here a few options:

Quench spell (But that mean a druid squad should be there... I doubt)
Wand of Create Water (An option, but that mean we would need a squad of clric ready to handle the wand)
Rod of Flame Extinguisher (Can be handle by anyone... good option, but it is 15 000 gp each, and one rod might not be anough, how much rod would it be needed?)
Fire truck (not exactly like the ones today, but chariot having a lot of barrel conatining water ready to replenish buckets)

I just want opinion before I start to describe the situation to my player. Also, what reaction time do you expect?

We have a precedent! Read the very begining of the Burning Tower.

I'll re-read it myself, but as I recall there was a bucket brigade from well to fire.

 

[Rystil Arden]

We have a precedent! Read the very begining of the Burning Tower.

I'll re-read it myself, but as I recall there was a bucket brigade from well to fire.

Yay, I guessed it!

 

[Pbartender]

I got a question.

A fire just started in Orussus in my tournament adventure. Nothing major, a few house, but enough to make me think: how does Orussus can contain a fire?

Pyrotechnics could also put out large portions of the fire. Otherwise, you form a bucket brigade, and hope it doesn't spread.

I'd avoid the magic items... They'd be just a bit silly.

This is exactly why, in ancient Rome, arson was a far more serious crime than murder.

 

[Patlin]

Ok, looking it over Orussus does have a fire brigaid, per the watch captain. Since the fire was clearly magical in nature, they weren't used. I was definitely contemplating a line of buckets, though.

 

[Jdvn1]

Ah, Dumas. I see where you're coming from, there. That actually puts it more into perspective for me than before--In Dumas's mythos, the actions seem to make more sense somewhat. I'd still say it was D&D Evil, though it certainly doesn't turn the character Evil on its own.

I'd go with what a friend described to me as "... D&D Lawful. Lawful to a fault."

 

[Rystil Arden]

I'd go with what a friend described to me as "... D&D Lawful. Lawful to a fault."

I have a friend who I know is Lawful Evil. He describes me as an unknowable flux between Chaotic Good and Lawful Good without ever touching Neutral Good (In some things I am extremely ethically Chaotic and in other things extremely ethically Lawful, with no real middle ground on anything). Most D&D tests just give me Neutral Good, perhaps because they can't give me that other one

But yeah, the Lawful-to-a-fault Lawful character will do deeds both evil and good in order to follow their guiding precepts.

 

[Velmont]

Nice, I'll be able to use that piece of inforrmation... the fire brigade will reappear.

I think the magical items is not that silly, but it is more a choice the city have to make. Magical items cost a lot, but it would cost a lot more to build back in the case of a great fire, so it is more a choice of the society. I think the rod is the best investment, but also, you must keep good watch on it not to be stolen, and due to teh cost, it would be much limited, but it would be usefull to caontain the fire into a region and then use the bucket to finish the work.

 

[Jdvn1]

But yeah, the Lawful-to-a-fault Lawful character will do deeds both evil and good in order to follow their guiding precepts.

And Anton tends toward Good, but can you also understand why that messenger pressed the wrong buttons and left me with no choice? It was a matter of honor, and while some would kill for any slight, that messenger was insulting.

It's also tough to explain in character, I think, particularly to people from other cultures.

 

[Rystil Arden]

And Anton tends toward Good, but can you also understand why that messenger pressed the wrong buttons and left me with no choice? It was a matter of honor, and while some would kill for any slight, that messenger was insulting.

It's also tough to explain in character, I think, particularly to people from other cultures.

I'll agree that I had seen Anton tending towards good in previous circumstances, and I could see where you're coming from and why he was frustrated and might have taken action, but I disagree that he had no choice. A warning shot that missed on purpose or taking the -4 penalty to deal nonlethal damage (both shots would have hit anyway) would have worked equally well. Even shooting one arrow instead of two, beating him up, and extracting an apology or forcing him to perform labour for Tandi to appease her. None of those acts (except possibly the one shot for lethal damage) is really Evil and they all serve the same purpose, essentially .

 

[Someone]

Now that Pbartender mentioned ancient Rome, would be too unethical to buy the building (real cheap!) while it´s still burning and then use your spells* to save it?

*Pyrotechnics works well, also summoning small water elementals; the can put out a fire of Large size each round.