General Discussion Thread X

[Patlin]

Also, my original (and apparantly abberant) reading of the map was that the area between the north and south portions of the Silverwood was largely forested. If you'll notice, the words "Stonepike Mountains" and "Silverwood" seem to have the terrain blocked out underneath them... unless the Stonepike Mountain label happens to be right over a huge valley! I thought that the word "Rivenblight" had gotten the same treatment, and was under the vague impression that a path had been cleared through the forest for the road, but that the forest extended beneath the word.

*Shrug*

See all the conclusions you can leap to in 6 seconds without even realizing it?

 

[Rae ArdGaoth]

I understand the "Words blotting out the geography" assumption, and as I measured the size of the tract of land, I thought that perhaps you had made that very assumption.

In the case of Stonepike (Which I think is actually supposed to be "Stonespike"), the mountains are completely surrounding the words, so I think the mountains are supposed to be inside. Also, "Rivenblight" is the 'severer' in this case, not "Silverwood". Also, note the hill just below Rivenblight. That implies to me that this is a hilly region, not a forested one.

What if...

300 years ago, the forest of Silverwood was much larger than it is now, and the barren region near Rivenblight was completely covered in forest except for a dirt road cut through by small populations of humans. Then the Rivenblight catastrophe occurred, sending shockwaves through the earth for miles, severing the roots of all the trees in that horizontal stretch.

Now, 300 years later, the Silverwood, once a magnificent forest with no interruptions for miles, has been greatly reduced in size around the edges, and the middle region, now sparsely covered with young trees among the hollow husks of dead trees, is nowhere near full recovery.

Cartographers cannot agree what to name the now separated forested regions. The elves wish to respect the old ages and continue calling all the forests "the Silverwood". Newer, younger humans are beginning to name the various patches of forests according to their local names. This "cartography war" has been ongoing for three centuries, and slowly, the humans are winning.

Should I make a proposal out of this or something? =P

 

[Manzanita]

I don't think you need a proposal for every little geography modification/addition, particularly if its relevant to an adventure you're putting together. I like your idea.

 

[Velmont]

I was looking at the rules of LEW and we neve rmention what rules we use for Psionic/Divine/Arcana transpenrency rules.

There is no difference between Divine and Arcana, but what about Psionic?

Does

Detect Magic = Detect Psionic ?
Psicraft = Spellcraft ?
Dispel Magic = Dispel Psionic ?
Know (Arcana) = Know (Psionic) ?

ect...

 

[Someone]

By the RAW I think that detect magic detects psionics, and the reverse is also true; the same for Dispel. The skill equivalents is a greyer area: I don't think they are equivalent, but I'm aware that some DMs treat them as so, and it already has happened in at least one or two adventures (where it was allowed to use Psicraft to identify magic spells)

Metapsionic and metamagic feats can't be equivalent, since they use different mechanics. I believe Magic Item Compendium treats the psionic crafting feats as equivalent to the magic ones, but its' something I've read on the boards, not checked out for myself (or if it's relevant, anyway)

 

[stonegod]

By the RAW I think that detect magic detects psionics, and the reverse is also true; the same for Dispel. The skill equivalents is a greyer area: I don't think they are equivalent, but I'm aware that some DMs treat them as so, and it already has happened in at least one or two adventures (where it was allowed to use Psicraft to identify magic spells)

Metapsionic and metamagic feats can't be equivalent, since they use different mechanics. I believe Magic Item Compendium treats the psionic crafting feats as equivalent to the magic ones, but its' something I've read on the boards, not checked out for myself (or if it's relevant, anyway)

Yeah, that's about it. The fact that Kn: arcana and Kn: psionics is different is a proud nail of the system; everything else is transparent except for the skills (I can *detect* magic, but I have no way to figure out what is going on). I treat them as the same, but YMMV.

 

[Velmont]

Where that map come from?

 

[orsal]

Where that map come from?

I don't recognize it. Looking through the historical archives for that page, it was first added by Rae Ardgaoth at 22:16 on 16 March 2007. Rae, where did you find that map?

 

[Rae ArdGaoth]

Technically, I didn't find it, Logicsfate found it, and I rediscovered his find as I was going through the recompilation thread.

The map he discovered was poor quality and had the coast on the wrong side, so I blurred it up, mirrored the image, and added some text. That's what you see on the wiki.

I realize it's not official, but it's something. KO made a comment on the wiki discussion page.

 

[orsal]

Technically, I didn't find it, Logicsfate found it, and I rediscovered his find as I was going through the recompilation thread.

Which means you did find it, in LogicsFate's summary of the Gen Disc IV thread. Thanks -- we now can track its origin, in case their are any doubts about its accuracy.