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ealt

Explorer
Good news, bad news. Bad news, The Haunting of Calithil manor thread no longer exists. The good news is that I have a cached copy of the thread. Give me a little time and we can pick up right where we left off. I highly suggest following these instructions for thread recovery. You might get something back.
 
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ealt

Explorer
I've begun to piece the thread back together. I plan on going into town for good internet tonight to finish restoration. Hopefully everything will be finished tonight!
 


Aura

Explorer
Oh, no. Sigh. Alright, trying to figure out the damage. :(

PS: Looks like reverted to an earlier version, with tons of recent game material missing. I have no useful cache to work with as the recovery thread suggests. I don't know what to say at this point, I'm completely overwhelmed. Have to think.

PPS: If anyone has cached copies of The Haven, Rodents of Unusual Size pt 4 or Perception is Reality, is there any hope it is something that can be Emailed to me so I can attempt to reassemble it all? Otherwise, I'll have to bridge them with narrative posts that attempt to summarize what happened and continue.
 
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perrinmiller

Adventurer
These setbacks EnWorld has had over the years with extremely long down times and now a complete loss of months’ worth of gaming posts has really hurt our PbP gaming community.
I already find the site hard to post using iPhone and tablets.

I am not sure some of my games can resume or not, it really depends on how much data can be recovered from people’s email notifications.

Maybe it is time to consider relocating Living Pathfinder again.
 



ealt

Explorer
Thread mostly reassembled! For once I'm glad Google has its feelers out everywhere! The Haunting of Calithil Manor is set to resume whenever people feel like posting again.
 

Scott DeWar

Prof. Emeritus-Supernatural Events/Countermeasure
Well, being in two different sights and no regular access to internet for 3 days of the week, I would vote for keeping it here. i hear places like the piatzza is even worse for i fones and tablets.

I do not know where you recommend we move to, Parrinmiller, but any place we do is susceptible to this kind of problem. It was a software issue that could have happened to anyone's server. It was like an infection that wormed its way through the memory of subsequent back-ups.
 

Aura

Explorer
So all my games are labeled 'Star Trek' and when I try to change it back, it won't save. Anyone know how to deal with this?
 

Jago

Explorer
So all my games are labeled 'Star Trek' and when I try to change it back, it won't save. Anyone know how to deal with this?

I believe the correct answer is to put all power to the Engines and start explaining that you cannot GM anymore because you're a licensed, trained, medical professional.


Honestly I have no clue, it looks like almost every LPF game is showing up like that. Must be some sort of coding error, maybe?
 



perrinmiller

Adventurer
Well, being in two different sights and no regular access to internet for 3 days of the week, I would vote for keeping it here. i hear places like the piatzza is even worse for i fones and tablets.

I do not know where you recommend we move to, Parrinmiller, but any place we do is susceptible to this kind of problem. It was a software issue that could have happened to anyone's server. It was like an infection that wormed its way through the memory of subsequent back-ups.
Over the last 5 years, I have never seen such lengthy down times at either of the sites I play at compared to here. Days of downtime for a website is a killer. Losing months of posts is unheard of.

Plus the forum software and post editors are not the best either.
 

sunshadow21

First Post
For all of its issues, Enworld is probably as good as any other site overall. Being a general forum helps in getting and retaining the attention of those who might not otherwise even think about playing in a pbp environment, and losses from things like this data loss aren't that much larger than losses through our normal cycle of gaining and losing people.

Another site would have to have really significantly better software tools and community to justify a move. We are established here to the point that starting over somewhere else would need to come with major long term benefits to make the time and inevitable short term player loss worth it.

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perrinmiller

Adventurer
Benefits like better post editor, more stability, their own online pathfinder sheets to auto calculate, 10 times more players, their own forum community that is at least as large as EnWorld, built in dice roller that works well and is easier to use, easier to find your threads since they can be moved around by GMs into sub-forums.

You mean those sort of reasons, SS21?

we would not have even move threads, just link them from the wiki and the new forums.
 

perrinmiller

Adventurer
Sorry, as a customer I am pretty unsatisfied with my EnW service. Frequent down times and delays in notifications happen so often here compared to other sites, I would have canceled my service plan years ago if this costed money.
 

sunshadow21

First Post
I get your frustration, but this comes up every time Enworld has a major issue, and every time the overall decision has been the same, and for largely the same reasons. Unless there has been some major new development somewhere else since the last time we had this conversation, I just don't see the outcome of this conversation being any different. The threshold of the perfect mix of available tools, community (not just size, but also activity level, friendliness, and other intangibles), and accessibility (espically mobile accesibility) across even just official judges and active DMs is going to be extremely high. I will not say that Enworld is making me super happy right now, but getting even a simple majority of people to agree on which board to move our community to is going to be near impossible without losing a lot of people.

Short of a specific proposal to move the LPF community to a specific different site, along with a discussion about what would need to be done to make that specific proposal happen, I don't see the conversation going very far. It's basically the same situation as the Great Chasm discussion; without specifics, it's simply too wide of a topic, and with specifics, there's enough room for argument to stop progress on it dead in it's tracks.
 

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