Gestalt: Twink it! Twink it GOOD!
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Druid/Cleric
The cleric has luck, magic domans... thus can use lots of arcane magic items.
Good hitpoints, good melee via wildshape, excellent saves (barring reflex), ok BAB, outlandish spellcasting and buffing possibilities.
Something like a Cleric15/Druid15 Gestalt must just be a NIGHTMARE to oppose.
Good grief!
Plus only one stat needed; Wisdom. All other physical stats can be gotten via wildshape.
All bases covered: melee, healing, magic (arcane, divine), outdoor abilities, scouting (wildshape), undead (cleric), etc. etc.
Endlessly customizeable and should have any spell needed at any given time (via scrolls, wands, or just known spells!)
The cleric has luck, magic domans... thus can use lots of arcane magic items.
Good hitpoints, good melee via wildshape, excellent saves (barring reflex), ok BAB, outlandish spellcasting and buffing possibilities.
Something like a Cleric15/Druid15 Gestalt must just be a NIGHTMARE to oppose.
Good grief!
Plus only one stat needed; Wisdom. All other physical stats can be gotten via wildshape.
All bases covered: melee, healing, magic (arcane, divine), outdoor abilities, scouting (wildshape), undead (cleric), etc. etc.
Endlessly customizeable and should have any spell needed at any given time (via scrolls, wands, or just known spells!)
CyberSpyder
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Gestalt Warrior/Commoner. 
Arbiter of Wyrms
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Hunter Mage = Ranger/Wizard: good BAB, decent HD, three good saves, decent skills, bonus feats, and full spellcasting+.
Skald = Barbarian/Bard: good BAB, best HD, three good saves, good skills, special abilities for both combat and support, good spells, and rage.
Devoted Anatomist = Cleric/Rogue: decent BAB, decent HD, three good saves, ridiculous skills, heavy armor, sneak attack, full spellcasting.
Savage Savant = Barbarian/Sorcerer: best BAB, best HD, two good saves, who needs skills?, when you've got rage and full spellcasting.
Skald = Barbarian/Bard: good BAB, best HD, three good saves, good skills, special abilities for both combat and support, good spells, and rage.
Devoted Anatomist = Cleric/Rogue: decent BAB, decent HD, three good saves, ridiculous skills, heavy armor, sneak attack, full spellcasting.
Savage Savant = Barbarian/Sorcerer: best BAB, best HD, two good saves, who needs skills?, when you've got rage and full spellcasting.
Gez
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There are two big type of gestalts: synergy gestalts and complementary gestalts.
An example of complementary gestalt would be sorcerer/barbarian. Good spellcasting and Will save on one hand, good BAB, HD, and Fort save on the other, plus various nifty abilities. It's a solid, all-around competent character.
Synergy gestalt use two similar classes which are full of special abilities. You can't build a synergy gestalt with wizard/sorcerer, because they don't get any special ability worth its name, but on the other hand, a LN druid/monk, or a druid/ranger, or a ranger/paladin, or a monk/paladin, or a monk/rogue, etc. would all be cool.
Here are a few gestalt concepts:
Warlock/Warmage (or Warlock/Sorcerer). With one class having utility/defense incantations at will (plus blasting with eldritch ray), and the other having blasting spells. If you go the Sorcerer route, you can inverse, and use the warlock incantations for blasting, and the sorcerer for utility and protection spells.
Warmage/Hexblade. You fill both sides of the Arcane Warrior concept at once, with fiery arcane power and good skill at the blade.
Scout/Rogue. Max out on Initiative, you may be able to drop your enemies with just one strike in the surprise round.
Scout/Monk. This one requires a bit of explaining: in Oriental Adventure, there is a martial art style that gives you a +10 Competence bonus to Tumble checks, and you can move 10 ft. as a 5-ft. step with a Tumble DC 40 check. With a good dex, and maybe the Skill Focus and/or Acrobatics feat, you can achieve a Tumble score of 30+ around level 11, when full attacks become really interesting. Flurry of blow+skirmish damage...
Sohei/Scout. Same thing as above, with a difference. Rather than trying to qualify for the Martial Art style, you try to qualify for the Bladedancer prestige class. You'll need spellcasting for that. The Sohei gives you Weapon Focus, flurry of blow, and a nifty ki frenzy which increase your Dex (and thus Tumble skill), Str, and speed.
Rogue/Duelist. What can I say? Sneak attack! Alternatively, Rogue/Ninja, but you'll have to catch your enemies flatfooted.
Finally, thanks to Complete Adventurer, here's a third sort of gestalt, the Complete Adventurer Feat gestalt. The idea is to use of the Ascetic X or Devoted Y feats to have your two gestalt classes synergize each other. They can be incredibly cheesy in gestalt play, since they make levels in both class stack for the purpose of a few abilities, in other words, doubling your level.
An example of complementary gestalt would be sorcerer/barbarian. Good spellcasting and Will save on one hand, good BAB, HD, and Fort save on the other, plus various nifty abilities. It's a solid, all-around competent character.
Synergy gestalt use two similar classes which are full of special abilities. You can't build a synergy gestalt with wizard/sorcerer, because they don't get any special ability worth its name, but on the other hand, a LN druid/monk, or a druid/ranger, or a ranger/paladin, or a monk/paladin, or a monk/rogue, etc. would all be cool.
Here are a few gestalt concepts:
Warlock/Warmage (or Warlock/Sorcerer). With one class having utility/defense incantations at will (plus blasting with eldritch ray), and the other having blasting spells. If you go the Sorcerer route, you can inverse, and use the warlock incantations for blasting, and the sorcerer for utility and protection spells.
Warmage/Hexblade. You fill both sides of the Arcane Warrior concept at once, with fiery arcane power and good skill at the blade.
Scout/Rogue. Max out on Initiative, you may be able to drop your enemies with just one strike in the surprise round.
Scout/Monk. This one requires a bit of explaining: in Oriental Adventure, there is a martial art style that gives you a +10 Competence bonus to Tumble checks, and you can move 10 ft. as a 5-ft. step with a Tumble DC 40 check. With a good dex, and maybe the Skill Focus and/or Acrobatics feat, you can achieve a Tumble score of 30+ around level 11, when full attacks become really interesting. Flurry of blow+skirmish damage...
Sohei/Scout. Same thing as above, with a difference. Rather than trying to qualify for the Martial Art style, you try to qualify for the Bladedancer prestige class. You'll need spellcasting for that. The Sohei gives you Weapon Focus, flurry of blow, and a nifty ki frenzy which increase your Dex (and thus Tumble skill), Str, and speed.
Rogue/Duelist. What can I say? Sneak attack! Alternatively, Rogue/Ninja, but you'll have to catch your enemies flatfooted.
Finally, thanks to Complete Adventurer, here's a third sort of gestalt, the Complete Adventurer Feat gestalt. The idea is to use of the Ascetic X or Devoted Y feats to have your two gestalt classes synergize each other. They can be incredibly cheesy in gestalt play, since they make levels in both class stack for the purpose of a few abilities, in other words, doubling your level.
- Monk/Ranger with Ascetic Hunter. You double your monk level for the purpose of unarmed strike damage. And the DC of your stun attacks against favored enemies is increased.
- Monk/Paladin with Ascetic Knight. You double your monk level for purpose of unarmed damage, and your paladin level for purpose of smite damage.
- Monk/Sorcerer with Ascetic Mage. You double your monk level for purpose of your AC bonus, you use your Cha bonus instead of your Wis bonus to AC, and you get a reduced version of the Arcane Strike feat.
- Monk/Rogue with Ascetic Rogue. Double your monk level for unarmed damage, add +2 to the DC of your stun attack when sneaking.
- Paladin/Rogue with Devoted Inquisitor. When smiting evil with a sneak attack, opponent must save or be dazed.
- Paladin/Bard with Devoted Performer. Double your paladin level for purpose of smite evil damage, double your number of bardic music uses per day.
- Paladin/Ranger with Devoted Tracker. Double your damage from smite evil, and give your mount the animal companion's bonus.
Gez
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As for PrC twinking, I humbly present you the Daggerspell Paragon.
Here's how you progress.
You end up as a Rogue 6, Druid 10, Wizard 9, DSS 5, DSM 5, and AH 5.
Which means you'll have druid casting level 19, wizard casting level 18, sneak attack +5d6, wildshape 7/day (Tiny, Large, and Huge), companion familiar as a level 15 druid and level 14 wizard, channel animal 2/day, double daggercast, daggerclaws, and invocation of the knife.
I think you can pretty much dub yourself The Ultimate Merlninja.
Here's how you progress.
- Rogue/Druid
- Druid/Wizard
- Druid/Wizard
- Druid/Wizard
- Druid/Wizard
- Daggerspell Shaper/Wizard
- Daggerspell Mage/Druid
- Arcane Hierophant/Rogue
- Daggerspell Shaper/Wizard
- Daggerspell Mage/Druid
- Arcane Hierophant/Rogue
- Daggerspell Shaper/Wizard
- Daggerspell Mage/Druid
- Arcane Hierophant/Rogue
- Daggerspell Shaper/Wizard
- Daggerspell Mage/Druid
- Arcane Hierophant/Rogue
- Daggerspell Shaper/Wizard
- Daggerspell Mage/Druid
- Arcane Hierophant/Rogue
You end up as a Rogue 6, Druid 10, Wizard 9, DSS 5, DSM 5, and AH 5.
Which means you'll have druid casting level 19, wizard casting level 18, sneak attack +5d6, wildshape 7/day (Tiny, Large, and Huge), companion familiar as a level 15 druid and level 14 wizard, channel animal 2/day, double daggercast, daggerclaws, and invocation of the knife.
I think you can pretty much dub yourself The Ultimate Merlninja.
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