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Ranger REG said:
Nerds are misunderstood?

BTW, read the article on ICv2 web site, that the accused's lawyer will be using the "D&D defense" stating his client is a schizophrenic obsessed with D&D. Hopefully the lawyer will emphasize the mental disoder part, not the object of his disorder.

But that will unfortunately not matter to the press (at least in general). It only matters that there is a (tenuous at best) link between D&D and this sad event.

In my "experience" the tabloid press seem to be incappable of providing details to the general public that don't rate or are not banner worthy (or they beleive that the public can't handle it).
 

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Dirigible said:
Hurrah for thouroughly tasteless jokes.

Humor is the right way to approach things like this. No one who's buying into the "D&D is EEEVIL" is going to listen to rational explanations anyway.
 

I was particularly interested in the part where the accused attempted to hand his victim a piece of metal (or whatever) in an attempt to get him to duel.

I can honestly say that if some guy comes to my workplace (who I might have teased or whatever).. and starts off with.. "My name is Inigo Montoya.. you make fun of my hobby.. prepare to die." I'm NOT going to turn my back and run away. I guess I woulda went down fighting.

Do you think, had he taken the piece of metal or homemade sword the accused offered him, and then turned around and killed/maimed the attacker, that the current victim would have been arrested? Or would it have been considered self-defense?

If he would have been arrested, he was damned either way.
 

gizmo33 said:
So it was "homicidal geek" with "samurai sword" in the "workplace"? Darn. I had "Wierd Pete" with a "bag of dice" in the "parent's basement". Man, I suck at Clue.
Speaking of which, anyone ever play the D&D version of Clue (or Cluedo, as we call it here)?
 

Well, this had to come up again, had it not?

There's some observations I want to throw into the discussion randomly.


First, as to the "D&D Player killed coworker", the D&D Player being made a big deal of: There's a saying I cannot repeat here because of Eric's Granny, so I'll use a tamer version:

"A man who builds a thousand bridges and kisses one single goat once is not called a Bridge Builder. He's called a Goat Kisser." (Actually, the original didn't involve goats as much as... "chickens". And it was not exactly kissing, either, but that's beside the point).

Secondly, this guy had a selfmade samurai sword??? How do you go about just making one in your own home? If I recall correctly, those katanas, the weapon of noble warriors (noble in the sense of mobility) were carefully crafted by very competent smithes. They were more than just a weapon. It doesn't sound like you could just cobble together one of these in your spare time. It was rather something that was supposed to be a katana, and probably a sorry attempt to boot. I'd wager a proper katana wouldn't let you survive one hit at the neck.
But that's not really relevant, either.


I do think that this guy (the dead one) is the one who should have bought into that "Gamers are Homicidal Maniacs" bullmanure. Of course, in this case you still would have to say "This Homicidal Maniac is a Gamer" (the game hardly being the cause of his obsession and mental illness, but rather a focus), but it seemed that being scared of that guy would have saved his life. I know I wouldn't mock someone if I thought that someone to be a homicidal maniac.

This should be made more public - the D&D obsession being played down, of course (or rather, not being played up) - to show people where bullying can lead. So there's someone with an odd behaviour and you think it would be fun to mock and harass him to see if he breaks down? You do that, but just remember that you're being an :):):):):):):), you're breaking the law, and there's the chance that the guy is stark raving mad and will one day kill you in a wacky way, like stabbing you to death with a home-made samurai sword or just gunning you down.



That reminds me: We had a case of someone running amok with a katana here in Germany, a couple of years ago. This time, women were involved (and another obviously disturbed individual). Apparently, he had a girlfriend (or rather had had one, she didn't want to see him any more) who worked for the Baur Catalogue. He flipped out, took a katana (they apparently sold those in said Baur Catalogue, though I doubt that this one had an actual edge, at least not when they sold it) and went on a rampage in their office buildings, killing several.
 

Wik said:
He used a samurai sword? Doesn't he know those things only deal, like, 1d10 damage? I mean, what if his co-worker was 3rd level, or something?

I would've used my fireball. I mean, I've been practicing it for years... it's about time I used it to take out some orcs.

Theres no way it could have been caused by D&D, I mean it says he aimed for the neck, but there are no called shots in D&D! :p
 

Crothian said:
I doubt I'll hear about this from anyone
When the attack happened last year, I heard about it from some coworkers whom thought d and d was the devil game anyway. Eh I think d and d will always have a bad stigma.

Good : Halo and killing your brothers, family members and friends over and over again
Bad: Fighting evil monsters in dungeons and using your imagination.
 

Wik said:
He used a samurai sword? Doesn't he know those things only deal, like, 1d10 damage? I mean, what if his co-worker was 3rd level, or something?

I would've used my fireball. I mean, I've been practicing it for years... it's about time I used it to take out some orcs.

Well, Katanas do have a great crit range...

... sorry I couldn't help myself.
 


Hammerhead said:
Dude, no one cares. No one is going to say D&D caused this guy to go crazy. The article indicts the murderer's mental disorder, not his hobby. D&D is for dorks, not for satanists. Just look at all the D&D video games; a lot of them are pretty mainstream.

I would disagree. There is a bad stereotype about D&D among the uninformed. Just last year I was calling my city so that I can rent a lodge for a local Convention. When I mentioned that "Dungeons and Dragons" is one of the games, she said to me "Dungeons and Dragons. Ooo. I haven't heard anything good about that!"

My point is that the stigma of "D&D is evil" is still out there, and even news of a crazed murderer using the 'D&D defense' does not help to squelch that stigma I'm afraid.

`Le
 

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