Girl Gamer Stereotypes...or lack thereof?

[Buttercup]

Has this kinda thing ever happened to anyone else? And how did your group deal with it?

None of my players would ever do that. And if we invited a new guy who pulled that sort of crap, I'd insist that he leave immediately. I'm sure all my players would back me too. We're there to have fun, and none of us would consider that sort of subtly threatening behavior to be fun at all.

 

[LrdApoc]

None of my players would ever do that. And if we invited a new guy who pulled that sort of crap, I'd insist that he leave immediately. I'm sure all my players would back me too. We're there to have fun, and none of us would consider that sort of subtly threatening behavior to be fun at all.

I guess i had one of those experiences.. but it was not my wife who was bothered.. it was all of us. We invited someone I met at work to play with out regular group.. i was running two games a week back then (ahh the days before children and college

The first thing that set us all off was that he chose to play non-gender true. That in and of itself was not strange, since we all understand why someone would want to, and being a DM I do it all the time. But he developed this fantasy life and got far too in to the experience, detailing his characters traumas.. which I won't list here.

I think his acting was actually fairly on but the problem was that he even wanted to attempt it. We were all adults and the games I run tend to be adult oriented but not gratuitous. This guy insisted to follow his pathos and made party interraction rough. We all tolerated him for three sessions and strangely his issue came when I made some changes to the way magic item worked and he freaked out on us.

Needless to say he freaked out and six of us, we almost had to throw him out of the apartment. That was the scare of my life. I almost gave up Role-playing at that point because of this one guy. In fact that situation prompted me to make some pretty big life changes (I left for the Marine Corps two weeks later) just to reassure myself I was never going to be that guy.

Some people are just creepy. And I don't have to deal with them for long. This is one of the evils of open recruiting of players

Then there was this guy I met on some boards.. had like 2billion posts.. strange duck if I ever met one. i think his name was Crothalord or something Boy is that guy creepy!

LrdApoc

 

[Darklone]

One thing I forgot... Seems to be a special female schtick. (At least I talked with some girls about it who are a lot in with womens rights...)

One girl in a group is ok. Second girl in a group... means war.

Not that I could say it happened all the time, but at work for example we had about 40 guys, one girl, no problem. Another girl arrived, the next day we had a war in the whole department.

The girls I talked about it told me that it's some relic of a few thousand years oppression by the male dominion... e.g. girls don't have "ritual behaviors" to handle such situations with each other. They related it to the situation between good girl friends who have trouble about a boy and good boy friends who have trouble about a girl. The boys usually stick to each other, the girls cheat each other.

I'm just glad the girls in our group knew each other before we started to play...

Just to make sure, I don't want to offend anyone, it's just a rather common observation I made and something I read about in some womens stuff books too. I got the impression though that most females (gamer or not) after a certain age (ca. 30) got over these problems.

Edit: Wasn't it PlaneSailings storyhour where he had the problem with a female char being raped?

 

[S'mon]

Guys who get overly sensitive about slights against feminist doctrine or "testosterone fueled" behaviour?

You are going to hate it here Djeta

Take a look at any of the myriad threads on cross gender rp.

Actually don't.

I'd think the (TB/fusangite etc) view that men can't/shouldn't play female PCs was fully in accord with feminist doctrine, but maybe I'm mistaken.

 

[Rel]

Has this kinda thing ever happened to anyone else? And how did your group deal with it?

We've never had anything in our group precisely along the lines of what you describe, but we've played with some folks who we weren't really comfortable with. It's been years since that happened and I think we've all reached a point in our lives when we will not suffer creeps like that for long.

And in the particular circumstance you describe, I'd boot that jerk soon and without a second thought. You guys need to lose him in a hurry.

 

[mythago]

The girls I talked about it told me that it's some relic of a few thousand years oppression by the male dominion... e.g. girls don't have "ritual behaviors" to handle such situations with each other.

Oh, piffle. It's not as though the situation of being a couple of females in a group of males came up for the FIRST time, in thousands of years of evolution, when those two women got together. They were doing the same thing as the guy who gets caught cheating and says "But chimpanzees do the same thing!" It's not evolution, it's *just you*.

It's a relic of girls who are immature and want to be the center of attention in an all-guy group. If you guys don't egg it on and treat it with the contempt it deserves, they would probably knock it off. That, or make a lot of comments about girl-girl action; that tends to make women think that you're a jerk very quick and then you have that female solidarity going.

 

[NewJeffCT]

Oh, piffle. It's not as though the situation of being a couple of females in a group of males came up for the FIRST time, in thousands of years of evolution, when those two women got together. They were doing the same thing as the guy who gets caught cheating and says "But chimpanzees do the same thing!" It's not evolution, it's *just you*.

It's a relic of girls who are immature and want to be the center of attention in an all-guy group. If you guys don't egg it on and treat it with the contempt it deserves, they would probably knock it off. That, or make a lot of comments about girl-girl action; that tends to make women think that you're a jerk very quick and then you have that female solidarity going.

Well, it's not just in gaming. I work in a company that is about 50-50 male-female. However, I know more than a few women here that came from a work environment that was almost exclusively female and they hated it there. I can't imagine it is just because they enjoy getting more attention in a more diverse workplace?

 

[Kichwas]

Blaming female competitiveness on 'The Male Patriarchy' would be like a man blaming his football watching habits on PMS.

There's no logical connection.

There's this massive 'Cult of the Oppressed' going on in modern western society. Everybody wants to be the victim.

While you can blame some things on oppression, you can't blame everything. Some of what we do is just our own fault or nature.

 

[Teflon Billy]

I'd think the (TB/fusangite etc) view that men can't/shouldn't play female PCs was fully in accord with feminist doctrine, but maybe I'm mistaken.

Actually, you are right and totally caught me out on this S'mon

I meant look into any of the myriad "Girls who game" thread (othe than this one) for examples of guys getting all up in arms about the idea of generalizations being placed on groups of people.

Thanks for the heads up

 

[Teflon Billy]

I'd think the (TB/fusangite etc) view that men can't/shouldn't play female PCs was fully in accord with feminist doctrine, but maybe I'm mistaken.

Actually, you are right and totally caught me out on this S'mon

I meant look into any of the myriad "Girls who game" thread (othe than this one) for examples of guys getting all up in arms about the idea of generalizations being placed on groups of people.

Thanks for the heads up