Giving Clothes a Magical Armour Bonus...Is it wrong?

[Antikinesis]

If it please the court......


Rules....shmules.....magic clothes just adds to the flavor of the game for me and mine.

I'm not a big stickler for the rules anyway so "it's not allowed by the rules" is not much of an argument.

I say go for the clothes man if that's what you want....rules be $%&&%!

I would like to suggest that you might feel more at-home in the "House Rules" forum, as this forum ("D&D Rules") is intended for discussion of rules.



-AK

 

[Antikinesis]

So you can't think of ANY non-armor item that grants armor bonuses? Like Bracers of Armor (Wonderous Item), or a Robe of the Archmagi (+5 armor bonus, also a wondrous item)?

These items are not "House Rules." They are core rulebook prescidents.

[/B]

He didn't say "armor bonus", he said "armor enhancement". Not the same thing. All of the items you mentioned are not armor, and are ineligible for armor enhancement bonuses.

-AK

 

[MerakSpielman]

Now I'm pictuing a guy in huge, spiked full plate and a Robe of the Archmagi at the same time...

 

[Antikinesis]

Now I'm pictuing a guy in huge, spiked full plate and a Robe of the Archmagi at the same time...

Well... the nutcase could wear 'em, but since they both provide armor bonuses, that particular benefit wouldn't stack.

-AK

 

[LokiDR]

Listen, if a powergamer wants to get magic armor enhancement without wearing armor, he can just pick up the ever popular mirthal buckler.

The more combinations of magic items you allow, the more a powergamer can break the system, pure and simple. If you are not worried about powergaming, it can be fun. Just be aware of what muchkins will do.

 

[cptg1481]

I would like to suggest that you might feel more at-home in the "House Rules" forum, as this forum ("D&D Rules") is intended for discussion of rules.



-AK

I feel fine posting it this or any other forum, thank you. I think that the operative phrase here is discussion of rules.

Now in my opinion in a discussion there are many sides that can be taken. In fact, of the myriad of possible points of view more than one may be considered a valid assesment of the topic.

In this case as in many, one of those possible points of view, especially when discussing rules is that the rule iteself has no merit.

When I made my comments above it was my intent to opine that the mere existance of a particular rule is not much of an argument in and of iteslf. I wished to imply that there are many rules in existance and that not all of them are that well thought out nor appropriate for all situations as written.

In this case especially, in a game that can be played a thousand ways and not be wrong, what is most important is that one has fun.

For some that is regarding the rules as an inmutable sacred cannon to be revered and adheared to at all costs, however, for others the rules are a loose set of guidelines.

That is the point I wished to make....

The point I make with this post in that although this is the rules forum both sides of the issue, that is both the opinions of those for the rule and those against it are valid in this forum.

Thanks....

 

[Grundle]

Reiterating from the previous thread -- it's not definitely allowed under the core rules. Clothes are not armor, and are not given as an option in the DMG magic armor section. The fact that magic vestment works on clothing is a nonissue, since it's just a special case for that spell.

Why couldn't a shirt be endowed with a permanent Magic Vestment spell, by a cleric with Craft Wonderous Item?

 

[Al]

Personally, I would assume that clothing goes into the

1 vest, vestment or shirt

slot, what with clothing and vestments essentially being synonymous.

As for the type of bonus, it would *technically* be an enhancement bonus. Under Magic Vestment, this is a legitimate interpretation, and if armour if enchanted, it is an enhancement bonus.

Technically, therefore, it *does* indeed stack with Bracers of Armour (since BoA provides an armour bonus, and magical clothing would provide an enhancement bonus).

Broken? Perhaps- but no more so than pulling the same trick by simply casting Magic Vestment every day.

 

[Hypersmurf]

As for the type of bonus, it would *technically* be an enhancement bonus. Under Magic Vestment, this is a legitimate interpretation, and if armour if enchanted, it is an enhancement bonus.

It's an enhancement bonus to the armor, not to your AC directly.

In the case of Magic Vestment, a special exception, clothes are treated as a suit of armor with no Armor bonus. The spell enhances them to be a suit of armor with a +3, or whatever, Armor bonus.

... which, naturally, doesn't stack with armor.

-Hyp.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Something else to keep in mind - Magic Vestmented clothes provide an armor bonus that stacks with a shield.

Bracers of Armor in shirt form provide an armor bonus that does not stack with a shield.

-Hyp.