[Gleemax]Another thing not to like.

[Vocenoctum]

With respect, I've offered an alternative.

What alternative presents wizard protection from false allegations of copy, while also allowing folks to post their original material?

As written, the new information on TOS says that once you publish something on Gleemax you can't publish it anywhere else. This, I believe, is just poor wording - you're not allowed to publish material based on Wizard's IP on your site anyways, the TOS won't disallow Birthright content (for example) from posting his materials on Birthright.net (which is allowed under a separate agreement), it will just allow such content to be posted on Gleemax too. This could have been worded better, however. As it is, it isn't perfectly clear if my interpretation is clear or not. I'd say what we have here isn't "flase allegations", it's miscommunication.

I'm sorry, you're just wrong. They are not saying if you post something you can't use, except for that derived from wizards IP. That's common sense and there is no way it would be otherwise, and it clearly says derived work.

Under the TOS as presented, "you are not allowed to then publish that content anywhere else". At least for content that originated with some of Wizard's IP in it, you can't. Since that includes the D&D rules, this can be rather extensive... [That Wizard's D&D IP is also available under the OGL is immaterial; it's still their IP]

WotC is pretty clear on IP in most cases, so I don't see any basis for it. Unless you're really trying to say that WotC will claim D20/OGL as IP and try to co-opt all material based on it.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Greetings!

Hmmm...I don't know. It seems like anyone concerned about their own IP should be very cautious about posting anything of substance at Gleemax.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

It would seem to me that what material would be presented in a discussion forum would be minor materials that are suitable for tweaking. Other material of more substance should indeed be on a business off-site, or in one of the sites Gleemax has for it. I mean, folks have to keep in mind what material will actually be in areas where it has a chance to be seen & used by WotC anyway.

The costs associated with Gleemax should be measured against the possible increased exposure and planned accordingly, obviously.

 

[Kem]

Under the TOS as presented, "you are not allowed to then publish that content anywhere else". At least for content that originated with some of Wizard's IP in it, you can't. Since that includes the D&D rules, this can be rather extensive... [That Wizard's D&D IP is also available under the OGL is immaterial; it's still their IP]

Actually no, because since its out under the OGL you have the right to republish it. And no other license can circumvent this due to clause 2 of the OGL.

Wizards is not TAKING any rights from anyone. They are granting THEMSELVES rights while giving YOU rights.

 

[Storm Raven]

As written, the new information on TOS says that once you publish something on Gleemax you can't publish it anywhere else.

No, it doesn't. You are misreading the document.

Excellent post. However, if the similarities are extensive enough, wouldn't the court assume you've gained access to the original somehow? If I publish a 160-page book that is a verbatim copy of someone else's work, I'm pretty sure the courts will find I copied it...

Perhaps. The court might infer access from similarity, but there has to be some colorable method that you could have gotten that access. If you publish something that is identical to something I wrote and sent to my best friend (and no one else), and there is no connection between you and either my best friend or me, then it will be difficult to infer copying.

Under the TOS as presented, "you are not allowed to then publish that content anywhere else".

Entirely incorrect. You aren't allowed to publish material you make that also that has WotCs own IP in it. Stuff you make that is comprised of your own material, you can publish anywhere alse you want to.