Gleemax = Enworld

CharlesRyan said:
As for the OP's concerns, I don't imagine this being especially competitive for ENworld. WotC's mandate is to serve a broad community; ENworld's niche is to serve a narrower slice of more deeply invested gamers.

Bingo.

Cue Crothian's quote about WotC's target audience. :)

Cheers, -- N
 

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Maggan said:
Probably. And since the name is widely debated, and has lodged itself in my brain, I guess that they even have shrewd marketers.

Creating and/or assigning names for new services, products and/or even companies is very, very difficult. I've done it a few times, and the amount of work that goes into finding a name that people agree upon that is not already taken is staggering.

EDIT: I'll amend my post saying that finding names can be very difficult. Sometimes it's very simple, but that's more the exception than the norm.

/M
Klaus = award-winning Advertising Art Director and Copywriter for 10 years (okay, Award-Winning is only 8 years... :) ).

Negative attention isn't always desireable, regardless of what Mick Jagger once said. Specially since "Gleemax" is an in-joke to a piece of your demographic that you already have won over.
 

Klaus said:
Klaus = award-winning Advertising Art Director and Copywriter for 10 years (okay, Award-Winning is only 8 years... :) ).

Great. And ditto on the copywriter thing, although I'm just a lowly Creative Director nowadays, victim to the whims of Art Directors and Project Managers.

I just think that at least judging from my experience in advertising and communication, it's a hell of a lot easier to slam a name, than to come up with one.

And I don't see anything that automatically makes Gleemax a bad name for the service. For some people, sure. But that's the case with any name you come up with. And if the Magic crowd loves it, that's a strong plus for the name.

It could be bad, it's just that I'm not prepared to carpet bomb the marketing at WotC, because I simply don't know what process they've been through and what data they have.

/M
 
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Klaus said:
Klaus = award-winning Advertising Art Director and Copywriter for 10 years (okay, Award-Winning is only 8 years... :) ).

Negative attention isn't always desireable, regardless of what Mick Jagger once said. Specially since "Gleemax" is an in-joke to a piece of your demographic that you already have won over.


There's no such thing as bad press...
 


Regarding the name, I agree with many here. It's a name. It's a fine name. Eventually, people will associate Gleemax with whatever they perceive gleemax to be, and by even next week I think most people will be ambivilent about it. I've tried to encourge people not to waste their ammo on the name, since it almost seems like a feint, and I think there are more legitimate topics for the community to discuss and make their voice heard on.

As far as what the Digital Initiative is, we've done a terrible job of making that clear. And I think a lot of it is my fault. I can even say that WotC D&D folks, like Scott Rouse and Chris Perkins, expressed concern about refering to what we're doing with D&D as the D&D DI, so I can't say I wasn't warned.

So here it is: WotC has a Digital Initiative. Gleemax is going to be the home for gamers. RPG, TCG, BG, Minis, you name it. It should be the place for anyone interested in anything to do with any tabletop or strategy game to come and find what they want. It could be people who can describe that game, extra content for that game, people to discuss that game with, people to play that game with, it could suggestions on what other games they may like, even links to other sites, etc. As part of this, Gleemax will have a large amount of features and tools to help facilitate the community.

D&D also has plans in the digital space. These are brand specific but will certainly be supported by a lot of the basic Gleemax functionality. We haven't released a lot of details on the D&D DI because we expect to make some big announcements when we're ready. I can't say when those announcements will happen. I will continue trying to wheedle out the bits of information I can from the D&D folks, but it's extra hard at this time of year, with all the preparations they're making for Gencon, which has always been a pretty big deal for WotC and D&D.

edit: Changed their to they're and strategic to strategy (strategiary)
 
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Mike, could you make it clear who you are, please? You are apparently somehow associated with WotC, but I don't recognize your name -- probably because D&D and (to an extent) DDM are my only hobby gaming activities.

I've been very interested in hearing about the DI, especially what will be available for D&D as part of the offering. I would even say that I was cautiously optimistic about the cancellation of Dragon and Dungeon because of what it implied for the DI/D&D's online presence.

That said, I'm still stunned at how bad the name Gleemax sounds. Even when reading you post above, it was jarring and comical to see the name. Yes, the name will eventually take on meaning based on the content and features of the site and brand. It's still not a positive name. Really, a name like smurfpoop.com could end up turning into a great brand, but the name itself would always be... unfortunate.
 

Mercule said:
Mike, could you make it clear who you are, please? You are apparently somehow associated with WotC, but I don't recognize your name -- probably because D&D and (to an extent) DDM are my only hobby gaming activities.


Sorry about that. I try to play it low key and just slip in and answer questions. Unfortunately, that didn't work on boardgamegeek.com where they threw me off for answering questions about Gleemax, because they considered it "advertising" the "competition."

I added a sig here.

edit: changed BGG to the full name, and noted self to stop assuming people know this stuff.
 
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