Good (card) Suit names?

[Ry]

Whore sounds more like what I'm going for.

[sblock=The whole deck]The Queen of Suns: A Cryswoman resists in spring
The Crone of Suns: A Rootwoman forces in summer
The Witch of Suns: A Osmoswoman permutes in autumn
The Lady of Suns: A Breakwoman resists in winter
The Knight of Suns: A Weaveman forces in spring
The Nine of Suns: A Crysman permutes in summer
The Eight of Suns: A Rootman resists in autumn
The Seven of Suns: A Osmosman forces in winter
The Six of Suns: A Breakwoman permutes in spring
The Five of Suns: A Weavewoman resists in summer
The Four of Suns: A Cryswoman forces in autumn
The Three of Suns: A Rootwoman permutes in winter
The Two (Child) of Suns: A Osmosman resists in spring
The One (Babe) of Suns: A Breakman forces in summer
The Scoundrel of Suns: A Weaveman permutes in autumn

The King of Coins: A Osmosman forces in autumn
The Sage of Coins: A Breakman permutes in winter
The Witch of Coins: A Weavewoman resists in spring
The Lady of Coins: A Cryswoman forces in summer
The Maiden of Coins: A Rootwoman permutes in autumn
The Nine of Coins: A Osmoswoman resists in winter
The Eight of Coins: A Breakman forces in spring
The Seven of Coins: A Weaveman permutes in summer
The Six of Coins: A Crysman resists in winter
The Five of Coins: A Rootwoman forces in spring
The Four of Coins: A Osmoswoman permutes in summer
The Three of Coins: A Breakwoman resists in autumn
The Two (Child) of Coins: A Weavewoman forces in winter
The One (Babe) of Coins: A Crysman permutes in spring
The Scoundrel of Coins: A Rootman resists in summer

The King of Cloaks: A Weaveman permutes in spring
The Sage of Cloaks: A Crysman resists in autumn
The Warlock of Cloaks: A Rootman forces in winter
The Lady of Cloaks: A Osmoswoman permutes in spring
The Maiden of Cloaks: A Breakwoman resists in summer
The Nine of Cloaks: A Weavewoman forces in autumn
The Eight of Cloaks: A Cryswoman permutes in winter
The Seven of Cloaks: A Rootman resists in spring
The Six of Cloaks: A Osmosman forces in summer
The Five of Cloaks: A Breakman permutes in autumn
The Four of Cloaks: A Weaveman resists in winter
The Three of Cloaks: A Cryswoman forces in spring
The Two (Child) of Cloaks: A Rootwoman permutes in summer
The One (Babe) of Cloaks: A Osmoswoman resists in autumn
The Whore of Cloaks: A Breakwoman forces in winter

The Queen of Crowns: A Rootwoman resists in winter
The Sage of Crowns: A Osmosman forces in spring
The Warlock of Crowns: A Breakman permutes in summer
The Lord of Crowns: A Weaveman resists in autumn
The Knight of Crowns: A Crysman forces in winter
The Nine of Crowns: A Rootwoman permutes in spring
The Eight of Crowns: A Osmoswoman resists in summer
The Seven of Crowns: A Breakwoman forces in autumn
The Six of Crowns: A Weavewoman permutes in winter
The Five of Crowns: A Crysman resists in summer
The Four of Crowns: A Rootman forces in autumn
The Three of Crowns: A Osmosman permutes in winter
The Two (Child) of Crowns: A Breakwoman resists in spring
The One (Babe) of Crowns: A Weavewoman forces in summer
The Whore of Crowns: A Cryswoman permutes in autumn

The Queen of Knives: A Breakwoman forces in summer
The Crone of Knives: A Weavewoman permutes in autumn
The Warlock of Knives: A Crysman resists in spring
The Lord of Knives: A Rootman forces in summer
The Knight of Knives: A Osmosman permutes in autumn
The Nine of Knives: A Breakman resists in winter
The Eight of Knives: A Weavewoman forces in spring
The Seven of Knives: A Cryswoman permutes in summer
The Six of Knives: A Rootwoman resists in autumn
The Five of Knives: A Osmoswoman forces in winter
The Four of Knives: A Breakman permutes in spring
The Three of Knives: A Weaveman resists in summer
The Two (Child) of Knives: A Crysman forces in autumn
The One (Babe) of Knives: A Rootman permutes in winter
The Whore of Knives: A Osmoswoman resists in spring

The Queen of Cups: A Cryswoman permutes in spring
The Crone of Cups: A Rootwoman resists in summer
The Witch of Cups: A Osmoswoman forces in autumn
The Lady of Cups: A Breakwoman permutes in winter
The Knight of Cups: A Weaveman resists in spring
The Nine of Cups: A Crysman forces in summer
The Eight of Cups: A Rootman permutes in autumn
The Seven of Cups: A Osmosman resists in winter
The Six of Cups: A Breakwoman forces in spring
The Five of Cups: A Weavewoman permutes in summer
The Four of Cups: A Cryswoman resists in winter
The Three of Cups: A Rootman forces in spring
The Two (Child) of Cups: A Osmosman permutes in summer
The One (Babe) of Cups: A Breakman resists in autumn
The Scoundrel of Cups: A Weaveman forces in winter

The King of Orbs: A Osmosman resists in autumn
The Sage of Orbs: A Breakman forces in winter
The Witch of Orbs: A Weavewoman permutes in spring
The Lady of Orbs: A Cryswoman resists in autumn
The Maiden of Orbs: A Rootwoman forces in winter
The Nine of Orbs: A Osmosman permutes in spring
The Eight of Orbs: A Breakman resists in summer
The Seven of Orbs: A Weaveman forces in autumn
The Six of Orbs: A Crysman permutes in winter
The Five of Orbs: A Rootwoman resists in spring
The Four of Orbs: A Osmoswoman forces in summer
The Three of Orbs: A Breakwoman permutes in autumn
The Two (Child) of Orbs: A Weavewoman resists in winter
The One (Babe) of Orbs: A Crysman forces in spring
The Scoundrel of Orbs: A Rootman permutes in summer

The King of Bowls: A Weaveman forces in summer
The Sage of Bowls: A Crysman permutes in autumn
The Warlock of Bowls: A Rootman resists in winter
The Lady of Bowls: A Osmoswoman forces in spring
The Maiden of Bowls: A Breakwoman permutes in summer
The Nine of Bowls: A Weavewoman resists in autumn
The Eight of Bowls: A Cryswoman forces in winter
The Seven of Bowls: A Rootman permutes in spring
The Six of Bowls: A Osmosman resists in summer
The Five of Bowls: A Breakman forces in autumn
The Four of Bowls: A Weaveman permutes in winter
The Three of Bowls: A Cryswoman resists in summer
The Two (Child) of Bowls: A Rootwoman forces in autumn
The One (Babe) of Bowls: A Osmoswoman permutes in winter
The Scoundrel of Bowls: A Breakman resists in spring[/sblock]

 

[Ry]

Still taking suggestions if anyone is grokking this (or questions if anyone is interested).

 

[TwinBahamut]

I think this is very interesting, but I have no idea what are the purposes of the three part distinction and the five part distinction. It is about as clear as mud to me. At the very least, I suggest you choose better names for them, because the ones you are using right now don't register much meaning for me.

As a whole, the formulation of "cryswoman resists in spring" is fundamental to your current set-up, but it isn't very intelligible in that descriptive form. Maybe you should change the set up a little? It might not be applicable, but I suggest moving the five-part aspect to being the verb of the descriptive sentance, and move the three-part aspect to being a descriptor of the season, such as a time of day (Day for Forces, Night for resists, Twilight for Permutes). Something more like "The woman who organizes on a spring night" rather than what you have above. Something like that could be read a lot more easily.

 

[TwinBahamut]

Alright, I know you just settled on some suit names, but I just had an interesting idea related to the Hope>sin set of concepts. Namely, just using abstract words for the suits, rather than concrete words.

Hope: Dreams
Pride: Achievements
Greed: Treasures
Lust: Feelings
Envy: Appearances
Gluttony: ???
Wrath: ???
Sloth/Despair: Fears

I want to the words "ideas", "plots", and some reference to mundane items and the like.

I just think the idea of a "King of Achievements" or a "Queen of Appearances" sound cool.

 

[Hypersmurf]

How about, in place of seductress, you had something a bit more negative to match better with scoundrel? Trollop, harlot or whore all seem like they'd be good fits.

Eight suits - you could have a different prostitute in each suit!

Slovenly trull, brazen strumpet, cheap trollop, typical streetwalker, saucy tart, wanton wench, expensive doxy, haughty courtesan!

N (One = Babe)

You know, I've seen entire decks of Babes...

-Hyp.

 

[Ry]

I think this is very interesting, but I have no idea what are the purposes of the three part distinction and the five part distinction. It is about as clear as mud to me. At the very least, I suggest you choose better names for them, because the ones you are using right now don't register much meaning for me.

As a whole, the formulation of "cryswoman resists in spring" is fundamental to your current set-up, but it isn't very intelligible in that descriptive form. Maybe you should change the set up a little? It might not be applicable, but I suggest moving the five-part aspect to being the verb of the descriptive sentance, and move the three-part aspect to being a descriptor of the season, such as a time of day (Day for Forces, Night for resists, Twilight for Permutes). Something more like "The woman who organizes on a spring night" rather than what you have above. Something like that could be read a lot more easily.

I was getting ready to explain how it works... but it doesn't.



Zing. You've seen it exactly: The five and three are the same thing at different levels of complexity. I'd rather change the three, but I'm not sure about only 3 times of day.

 

[Asmor]

You could use the sphinx's riddle for inspiration.

In the incredibly off chance anyone here doesn't know what it is... What walks on four legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and three legs at night? Answer:

Spoiler

A man. Crawls as a baby, walks as an adult, and uses a cane when he's elderly

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Of course, that might step on your toes a bit since you're using child and babe as the 1 and 2.

Hmm... Reduce, reuse, recycle? How about the three phases of matter: Solid, liquid, gas.

How about the state, the church and the people?

 

[TwinBahamut]

I was getting ready to explain how it works... but it doesn't.



Zing. You've seen it exactly: The five and three are the same thing at different levels of complexity. I'd rather change the three, but I'm not sure about only 3 times of day.

This whole thing has been making me wonder how I would arrange such a deck, and since I prefer the number 108 to 120, I would break it down as 4 x 27, or rather 4 x 3 x 3 x 3. The four would be the seasons, like you are using, plus the three phases of day I mentioned above, the realms of Heaven, Earth, and Sea, and the the last set of three would be the three professions of warriors, priests/scholars, and common workers. It is a bit slanted to a different goal than what you are describing (it isn't really a card deck so much as an arangement of people), but that is my concept.

 

[Ry]

Cool concept. Also, I had a Eureka! moment while trying to sleep. I can keep 5 and 3, by showing how 3 modifies 5 as verbs.

Direct, Resist, Permute

Break: Strike, Scatter, Stir
Crys: Order, Shield, Delineate
Osmos: Exchange, Flow, Proxy
Root: Grow, Invigorate, Decay
Weave: Connect, Entwine, Stretch

 

[Ry]

Besides the way to get there, why 108?