Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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It probably all depends on what kind of agreement was already in place between Goodman and Judge's Guild when Bledsaw went full Nazi. And unfortunately, that's something we will probably never know.

Best case scenario: Goodman was already on the hook for licensing City-State and came up with this scheme in order to salvage something out of that predicament, for themselves and for the 2010 backers who got ripped off. Worst case scenario: Joe Goodman is using vague claims of some prior agreement to imply that he didn't have a choice about this partnership after the backlash was far greater than he expected. Sadly, I can't see that we will find out what really happened.
I want to think the best case scenario you outline is possible. What gives me doubt and makes me lean towards the alternate reasoning you give is due to the language Joseph Goodman used about having no plans for future work with JG after the Jennell Jaquays collaborations. Why would he say that if they already had licensed plans in the works? My gut says there's more to the story, info we're not hearing, and it's kept that way because it's ugly... But who knows.
 

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I wonder if we'll ever know for certain whether or not Bledsaw got money from this deal. Or, since there was allegedly some prior agreement in effect, more money than Goodman was already on the hook for.

Because that's what really matters to me. In spite of my distaste for this project, I'm probably not ready to swear off Goodman Games forever... unless they end up paying the neo-Nazi more than pocket change. Then I'm not so sure.
Same. For me, I think my line in the sand is whether they continue to have a business relationship with the Bledsaws. For example, if they follow this up with a Wilderlands of High Fantasy OAR, that's probably it for me and DCC.
 

You know, I think they chose a short pledge time so people wouldn't cancel their pledges. 7 days... it irks me because WLD is going on and well... finances. In fact I feel like not bothering with either tbh. So, into the kitty for .. ugh.. property taxes in the fall. Meh! Now I'm depressed.
 

Best case scenario: Goodman was already on the hook for licensing City-State and came up with this scheme in order to salvage something out of that predicament, for themselves and for the 2010 backers who got ripped off.
This is what I think. Things blew up, Joe and Jennell had their public declaration, and then the Bledsaws called up Joe a year or two later and pointed out some unfortunate kill clauses in the contract. This situation satisfies the contract. That's my supposition, anyway.

So make your claims, people!
 

Why would he say that if they already had licensed plans in the works? My gut says there's more to the story, info we're not hearing, and it's kept that way because it's ugly... But who knows.
This is what I think. Things blew up, Joe and Jennell had their public declaration, and then the Bledsaws called up Joe a year or two later and pointed out some unfortunate kill clauses in the contract. This situation satisfies the contract. That's my supposition, anyway.

I understand why people would want to make this kind of guesswork about more information that we're missing. But at this point, the biggest argument against it is that it simply hasn't materialized. It's been over a month. Goodman has spoken multiple times to explain his side. Bledsaw has also spoken his piece.

Short of a Columbo-style mystery where a hidden contract contains the final clue to unveil a murderer, what possible motive could there be for keeping more secrets this long? What dramatic reveal would justify everyone involved going through all this?

I'm open for more information if it comes out, but I don't really expect anything new at this point. The cards have been played, they're all on the table. The fact that it's not a satisfying conclusion is unfortunate but real.
 

Short of a Columbo-style mystery where a hidden contract contains the final clue to unveil a murderer, what possible motive could there be for keeping secrets this long? What dramatic reveal would justify everyone involved going through all this?
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I'm open for more information if it comes out, but I don't really expect anything new at this point. The cards have been played, they're all on the table. The fact that it's not a satisfying conclusion is unfortunate but real.
The only thing I can think of is a silence clause. He's not saying that his hand is forced because he's not allowed.
I don't expect that we'll find out more about it, either. When the contract is completed by delivering the product, maybe.
My read of Joe leads me to come up with some sort of legal goad to compel production of this beyond mere fanboy-ism of the product. I can see him being a fan-boy of CSIO, the entire milieu is interesting in a similar vein as the Arduin Grimoire was. But if he's any kind of businessman he can see the issues at hand. And, I can't see any sympathy from him with Bledsaw at this point.

I dunno. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
 

Same. For me, I think my line in the sand is whether they continue to have a business relationship with the Bledsaws. For example, if they follow this up with a Wilderlands of High Fantasy OAR, that's probably it for me and DCC.

I think the current project already covers the Wilderlands.

According to the project description and subsequent comments:

"•A complete Guide to the City State of the Invincible Overlord detailing an entire fantasy city containing nearly 400 locations, more than 500 NPCs, almost 200 rumors and legends, dozens of new magic and monsters, new game mechanics and more.
•The Wilderlands Gazetteer detailing nearly 100 surrounding towns and village, plus castles and citadels, and lurid lairs filled with monsters and treasure.
•A Guide to Thunderhold, a dwarven citadel allied with the City State and adjacent to two massive dungeon complexes ripe for plunder.
Wraith Overlord, a sourcebook exploring the sewers, cellars, and other subterranean locales waiting to be explored beneath the city streets, plus a sinister threat to the City State in need of thwarting.
•Haghill, a 'home base' village suitable for beginning adventurers, including a starting adventure to get your campaign rolling.
A bevy of maps detailing the City State, the surrounding lands, and more..."

"...
•Book #1: City State of the Invincible Overlord
•Book #2: Gazetteer of the Wilderlands
•Book #3: Wraith Overlord
•Book #4: Dungeons of the Invincible Overlord..."

+maps of the stuff mentioned above
+extra material created from the original creator's personal notes
 

I think the current project already covers the Wilderlands.

According to the project description and subsequent comments:

"...
•Book #1: City State of the Invincible Overlord
•Book #2: Gazetteer of the Wilderlands
•Book #3: Wraith Overlord
•Book #4: Dungeons of the Invincible Overlord..."
Unlikely. The Wilderlands is much, much bigger than the City State and Environs. (The City State and the surrounding area is all in Map 1 of the Wilderlands. There are 17 other Wilderlands maps covering other areas that are the same size as Map 1.)
 



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