Goodman Games solicits input

[Dark Mistress]

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I agree with Windjammer here that a few single line reference to the type of monster and page number of the MM book of the system would likely be best.

 

[joela]

I agree with Windjammer here that a few single line reference to the type of monster and page number of the MM book of the system would likely be best.

Don't know if that is allowed under The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game compatibility license. Per the license:

5. Compatibility

In order to make use of the compatible content, your product must operate under and rely on the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. Standalone game systems are in no event authorized hereunder.

You agree to use your best efforts to ensure that the licensed products are fully compatible with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game as published in August, 2009. Your products may additionally be compatible with other systems.

If you wish to reference sections of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game or supplemental products in your product, you may do so in the following form:

See the "Elf Racial Traits" section in Chapter 3 of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.

You may not use page numbers, as they may change in licensed translations and in subsequent printings. The list of products you may reference is set out in Exhibit B, which Paizo may update at any time. You may not reference any Paizo products that are not listed in Exhibit B without express written permission.

Bold italics are mine.

 

[BryonD]

Not according to Chris Sims.

When he was laid off from WotC last month, he posted here that there was D&D - and nothing else is even close.

Pathfinder should have no significant impact if what he says is valid.

That only applies if you are WotC.
I am certain that NOTHING comes CLOSE to D&D.
I also wouldn't be surprised if non-Paizo Pathfinder product sales rival non-wotc D&D sales.

 

[ggroy]

I also wouldn't be surprised if non-Paizo Pathfinder product sales rival non-wotc D&D sales.

This is probably the main thing that Joseph Goodman is trying to figuring out, and determining which 3PP area is better sales wise to his company in the longer term.

 

[Dark Mistress]

I remember hearing about ye old Razor Coast but how's it actually working?

Anyone using it? How's the various systems working on it?

Or is this still in process from... '08 I want to say?

Some great little adventure gems and nuggets of neaties from the line but the Razor Coast itself I don't think has been published and basing a game plan on someone that's been trying to do something that sounds like what you want to do, but actually hasn't done it?

If I'm wrong please give me a link. I'd be very interested in seeing what the final looks like.

Last I read from Nick from what he has said. My guess is it is past layout and waiting on the final 2 maps and then headed to final edit and then finally to print. That seems to be where it is current based on recent comments by Nick.

 

[Dark Mistress]

Don't know if that is allowed under The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game compatibility license. Per the license:

5. Compatibility

In order to make use of the compatible content, your product must operate under and rely on the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. Standalone game systems are in no event authorized hereunder.

You agree to use your best efforts to ensure that the licensed products are fully compatible with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game as published in August, 2009. Your products may additionally be compatible with other systems.

If you wish to reference sections of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game or supplemental products in your product, you may do so in the following form:

See the "Elf Racial Traits" section in Chapter 3 of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.

You may not use page numbers, as they may change in licensed translations and in subsequent printings. The list of products you may reference is set out in Exhibit B, which Paizo may update at any time. You may not reference any Paizo products that are not listed in Exhibit B without express written permission.

Bold italics are mine.

Yeah not saying GG can do it, only saying I agree that would be the best way to do a multi system adventure I think. I am not convinced it would work but I do think that would be the best way to do it.

Though it might be best to do a cheap adventure for the 3 main groups and see how sales are after hyping them. A lose leader of sorts. High quality to show off what GG can do and then sell it for cost, maybe as a PoD. Then see where the sales numbers are. A Pathfinder/old DnD multi adventure would be fairly easy to do i think. More so than adding in 4e which is more different game mechanic wise IMHO.

But guess will see, I am curious how this will shake it's self out and very curious WHY Goodman is considering this.

 

[DaveMage]

I have no doubt that 4e D&D is the top dog with the lion's share of the market, and nobody else can get close. The problem is, most 4e players aren't buying 3PP 4e products for a variety of reasons from they can't use them with the DDI, to they have no respect for the quality of 3PPs based on their actual experiences or (more likely) misconceived perceptions based on the days of the d20/OGL glut.

But this isn't what Joe Goodman said just a few months ago. Sales of his 4e products were GREAT - remember?

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the majority of people buying 3PP products right now are doing so for something other than 4e.

This wouldn't surprise me either - but Goodman said differently just a few months ago - and he knows much better than any of us here. I asked what's changed and ggroy said Pathfinder.

My point is that I doubt Pathfinder has had any significant effect on 4E players, so why should Goodman want to change now when things were going so well just a few short months ago?

Maybe I misread what he posted, but my sense was that Goodman was full speed ahead for 4E and doing very well.

 

[darjr]

I don't read that he has a problem, I read that he is thinking about an opportunity.

He is an old school fan. Why wouldn't he want to cater to that and expand his business?

 

[ggroy]

why should Goodman want to change now when things were going so well just a few short months ago?

In principle he could have been exaggerating?

More likely he was possibly rationalizing his own previous decisions. It's human nature to want to rationalize one's own decisions, regardless of how good or bad they were in the end.

 

[lmpjr007]

I have commented on this on this topic at my blog, In the Mind of Mad Man, due to the fact that I didn't think it appropriate to use that type of graphic language on this forum.