I'm not asking you to. (And really, I couldn't care less if you do or don't.) Needless to say, JD, I don't expect to be seeing eye-to-eye with you on the subject of movies.
I see the removal of the icon still doesn't stop people from attempting! Can it. (Or at least, put in the effort to include one of those wicked-cool custom smilies you use...)
But isn't that the whole point of making a statement on a messageboard? I care; I want to understand why present day is so egregious for instance (especially given the Predator movies, which were all present day timeframes.)
arnwyn said:
Needless to say, JD, I don't expect to be seeing eye-to-eye with you on the subject of movies.
Quite possible. That doesn't mean I can't come to understand what you think about them. After all, I don't always see eye to eye with Roger Ebert either, but I understand him (after reading enough reviews) so I can use his response to a movie to gauge what my own will be
arnwyn said:
I see the removal of the icon still doesn't stop people from attempting! Can it. (Or at least, put in the effort to include one of those wicked-cool custom smilies you use...)
Ah, We miss you so. I didn't mean this as a rude gesture, though -- merely that I don't understand what makes an R rating so desirable, or what makes a PG-13 rating such an omen of impending disaster for this movie. Plenty of my favorite movies are PG-13.
Where do you get this? Assuming it's possible that is.
Joshua Dyal said:
I didn't mean this as a rude gesture, though -- merely that I don't understand what makes an R rating so desirable, or what makes a PG-13 rating such an omen of impending disaster for this movie. Plenty of my favorite movies are PG-13.
NC-17 is not for porn. NC-17 means the film is more extreme than an an "R" but it does not contain pornographic close-up penetration type scenes. Porn films are unrated or self-labeled as "X" or "XXX". To obtain any rating other than an "X/XXX" requires a distributor submit (and pay) the MPAA to screen (and most likely, impose censorship on) their film, as the MPAA owns the rights to use their "G/PG/R/NC-17" rating system, and films released without an MPAA rating often can't be distributed in theaters or advertised in newspapers. Most people confuse NC-17 with porn and therefore the rating is the "kiss of death" to distributors --- the rating is therefore a complete failure. And don't get me started on how the MPAA butchers the artistic vision of filmmakers and applies a doublestandard to independent films vs. studio films (an independent film will get a worse rating than a studio film with the exact same type of content every time).
To obtain any rating other than an "X/XXX" requires a distributor submit (and pay) the MPAA to screen .......
And don't get me started on how the MPAA butchers the artistic vision of filmmakers and applies a doublestandard to independent films vs. studio films (an independent film will get a worse rating than a studio film with the exact same type of content every time).
i thought it was more of the studios can keep submiting a film until a sympathetic panel of raters gives them the rating they want? {from what i heard south park kept resubmiting the movie [not to emtion addingw worse stuff]until they got an 'R'.
Crunch time is almost here, we will see how things go.
they had the right ideas, just could had use them better. I went to the edge if my seat at a few points, felt let down at others. a mixed thumbs up.
Movie had many good ideas and special effects. however the execution in the movie could have been better. Also lead female was not mentally resolved/ strong willed enough for the role she was given.[aliens-Sigorny Weaver / T2 Linda hamilton she was not] Not as bad as many expected, but the flawed
deliveries did hurt it at times. I enjoyed several parts of it. I especially liked the early exploration parts- gave me that whole "at the mountains of madness" feeling.
As far as earning its PG-13, it did, not too much human gore, but there was a few sprays of glow stick juice and copious spendings of acid. The alien drones actually used thier tails
for implales and spewing acid when the tip was severed. Also aliens seem to learn to use thier internal acid once they become aware they have it
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Pred's face has been changed to look less vaginal, while the Facehugger 's mouth looks exacty like a vagina now.
I agree. Somehow the characters weren't quite as engaging as I'd hoped them to be, so I didn't care quite as much when they started biting it, with the exception of a few of the more major lead types. Alien did this better, as did Predator. But other than that, it was much better than many have decided (in advance) than it could be.
frankthedm said:
Movie had many good ideas and special effects. however the execution in the movie could have been better. Also lead female was not mentally resolved/ strong willed enough for the role she was given.[aliens-Sigorny Weaver / T2 Linda hamilton she was not] Not as bad as many expected, but the flawed deliveries did hurt it at times. I enjoyed several parts of it. I especially liked the early exploration parts- gave me that whole "at the mountains of madness" feeling.
Yep, yep, with you there. I didn't think the lead was quite as engaging as Weaver, Schwarzeneggar, or even Danny Glover. She was a discount action star, I suppose, and it shows. She's just not quite charismatic enough.
Her performance is certainly workable; it didn't ruin the movie for me or anything like that, but it just wasn't quite enough to make the movie really scary because you really cared about her as much. I did also get that mountains of madness vibe a lot; I remember thinking that specifically as they explored the first location in Antarctica a little. Too bad they didn't make a little more out of that, actually.
frankthedm said:
As far as earning its PG-13, it did, not too much human gore, but there was a few sprays of glow stick juice and copious spendings of acid. The alien drones actually used thier tails
for implales and spewing acid when the tip was severed. Also aliens seem to learn to use thier internal acid once they become aware they have it
Yeah, they'd cut away at the last second, and maybe show a Raiders of the Lost Ark style spray of blood on the snow, and things like that. And the language was significantly toned down from either Predator or Alien(s).
frankthedm said:
Pred's face has been changed to look less vaginal, while the Facehugger 's mouth looks exacty like a vagina now.
Too much so. These were the linebacker versions, apparently. They lost some of their sleek gracefulness of the past. It's really hard to imagine these guys climbing in the trees like the first one did.
Is it true that they had the face huggers impregnated a host and the alien burst out in 20 minutes growing to full size in less than an hour failing to follow the conventions of the previous films? I'm a real stickler for following previously set conventions, and this will really bother me. Difference between going to the movie theater and waiting for rental for myself.
Is it true that they had the face huggers impregnated a host and the alien burst out in 20 minutes growing to full size in less than an hour failing to follow the conventions of the previous films? I'm a real stickler for following previously set conventions, and this will really bother me. Difference between going to the movie theater and waiting for rental for myself.
Yeah, the gestational periods were kind of wonky. There were some that burst out and grew up too quickly and then there were a couple where the aliens seemed to take quite a bit longer. It was probably the largest continuity problem with the film. Still, I think the aliens were born and reached adulthood at about the same rate that they did in Alien IV.
Joshua Dyal said:
Too much so. These were the linebacker versions, apparently. They lost some of their sleek gracefulness of the past. It's really hard to imagine these guys climbing in the trees like the first one did.
I got the distinct impression that these were young inexperienced predators who had yet to really develop their own style of hunting. They seemed to be relying on their size and their weapons more than their actual hunting prowess. I would assume that the one Arnold fought was far more accomplished.
Overall I was satisfied with the movie. Check your brain at the door, don't ask continuity questions, enjoy the fight and you should come out satisfied.
