Green Dragon Tactics against a Deepwood Sniper
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clockworkjoe
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1 non epic PC and 1 epic NPC versus a Great Wyrm Dragon?
Weird setup if you ask me.
Weird setup if you ask me.
Ravellion
serves Gnome Master
Fly away (directly up). Cast Divination spells to find him. Kill the annoying little bugger.
Alternatively, look at where the arrow came from, sast expeditious retreat to increase your movement rate and just fly full speed that way. You'll spot him eventually. Or can your DWS shoot all his arrows around corners?
Rav
Alternatively, look at where the arrow came from, sast expeditious retreat to increase your movement rate and just fly full speed that way. You'll spot him eventually. Or can your DWS shoot all his arrows around corners?
Rav
Kai Lord
Hero
He can't shoot around corners but he does have Concealment Reduction as a class ability. Can all dragons cast Divination spells? I thought they only had certain spell-like abilities, but maybe I didn't read the MM thoroughly enough. If he can use magic to locate me it sounds like I'm screwed without serious help.
Mr Fidgit
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well, depending on how 'thick' the forest is, the DWS shouldn't be able to fire from 500' away. even if he could...
if it's the dragon's forest, it should always have the tactical advantage, knowing the terrain better than the PC and NPC. the dragon could always retreat to an area where an archer couldn't have that kind of range.
if the dragon is taking long-range hits, there's no reason the dragon couldn't rush that direction, find the interlopers and annihilate them
if the PC and NPC start to run away (and they're within 200') use plant growth to slow their retreat. if the dragon then gets the PC and NPC in it's spell range, use dominate person on the DWS (less likely than a druid to save) and eat the druid. then eat the DWS. a fine lunch for the whole family!
have you determined the dragon's hoard, Kai Lord? it could have some items that may help (that it might carry).
if it's the dragon's forest, it should always have the tactical advantage, knowing the terrain better than the PC and NPC. the dragon could always retreat to an area where an archer couldn't have that kind of range.
if the dragon is taking long-range hits, there's no reason the dragon couldn't rush that direction, find the interlopers and annihilate them
if the PC and NPC start to run away (and they're within 200') use plant growth to slow their retreat. if the dragon then gets the PC and NPC in it's spell range, use dominate person on the DWS (less likely than a druid to save) and eat the druid. then eat the DWS. a fine lunch for the whole family!
have you determined the dragon's hoard, Kai Lord? it could have some items that may help (that it might carry).
Victim
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Cast Improved Invis. Even if the Deepwood Sniper has see invis or similar magics, the range on those effects will probably be short enough the DS has to move into your Blindsight range to target you. Also, Protection from Arrows will knock 10 points off all the DS's shots.
Something like teleporting to your lair, casting Greater Scrying, buffing up like crazy, and then teleporting 10 ft away from the poor DS might work too. However, it's a bit risky as the DS could be the bait in an ambush. If the dragon has a contingency, then go for it. With haste, the teleport is free partial, then the full attack goes off. With full buffs and power attack, the dragon can probably eat the DS in a round. If the DS doesn't look like it's going to drop on the last attack, have the dragon use its last shot in the round to Sunder the bow.
Something like teleporting to your lair, casting Greater Scrying, buffing up like crazy, and then teleporting 10 ft away from the poor DS might work too. However, it's a bit risky as the DS could be the bait in an ambush. If the dragon has a contingency, then go for it. With haste, the teleport is free partial, then the full attack goes off. With full buffs and power attack, the dragon can probably eat the DS in a round. If the DS doesn't look like it's going to drop on the last attack, have the dragon use its last shot in the round to Sunder the bow.
Kai Lord
Hero
Thanks guys, that's exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. By all appearances it looks like Wyrm Dragons can cast pretty much any arcane spell in the PHB? Yikes. The guy who's playing the DWS has definitely got his work cut out for him. 
Looks like it'd do him good to come across an Amulet of Nondetection to even have a chance of surviving the first round.
Looks like it'd do him good to come across an Amulet of Nondetection to even have a chance of surviving the first round.
clockworkjoe
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How is a level 10 character even going to hit a Great Wyrm? Don't all great wyrms have an AC of like 40 and up?
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