GSL news.

[HeinorNY]

Easy there, killer.

There is no need for that sort of vitriol. I had an opinion and apparently not read the SRD FAQ. There are other (and better) ways of letting me know that this question was answered in a WotC document.

Anyway, back onto the the ignore list for you.

I think Lizard was refering to WOTC not reading their own FAQ, thus commiting their mistake of allowing anyone to sell the SRD verbatim. No nitpick intended I think.

 

[Saishu_Heiki]

I think Lizard was refering to WOTC not reading their own FAQ, thus commiting their mistake of allowing anyone to sell the SRD verbatim. No nitpick intended I think.

If that is the case, then I apologize to Lizard for taking his comments in the wrong light. I shall wait and see if that is the case.

EDIT: I missed Lizard's last post. I see what he meant now. Sorry Lizard, it looked liked it was directed at me and I took it that way.

 

[Amphimir Míriel]

I was very worried about this, because I have been helping a novelist friend of mine make a D20 game out of his world. We created about 12 classes, 8 races and heavily modified the magic system, among other things... We were thinking of maybe making up a .pdf of the final setting, including the SRD, for our buddies to download for some donation money, or maybe set it up as a print-on-demand.

And then, when we were 85% finished with our heavily houseruled game, the 4th edition announcement came up... And I for one had already resigned myself about not being able to adapt our game to 4th edition, since it was very likely that the new license would not allow our derivative.

So I am really glad to hear that we will be able to make this, as long as we don't include character generation rules or experience points to our work (which we weren't planning to do, anyway)

 

[Fifth Element]

I think Lizard was refering to WOTC not reading their own FAQ, thus commiting their mistake of allowing anyone to sell the SRD verbatim. No nitpick intended I think.

I think the comment in the SRD makes it pretty clear. They knew that it could be done, but didn't think anyone would actually do it. Lesson learned, presumably.

 

[HeinorNY]

I don't really see anything in that post to contradict Lizard's point. So far I don't think anything stated about the GSL really prevents you from making a separate game. Not technically standalone since you can't have creation/advancement rules, but otherwise distinct from D&D. I'm also very curious about the fantasy clause. Unless they have a specific blacklist of subjects that can't be covered, "fantasy" is wide open to interpretation.

Where is the mention of this fantasy clause? I completelly missed it.

 

[Lizard]

If that is the case, then I apologize to Lizard for taking his comments in the wrong light. I shall wait and see if that is the case.

No, to be perfectly clear:
a)WOTC always intended people to be able to sell the SRD verbatim or use it as the core of standalone games.

b)Any question of their intent in this area is clearly rebutted by their own FAQ which, I suspect, they've read.

As I noted in my other post, I find the constant assumption that this wasn't the case, when it very clearly WAS, to be annoying -- it's like the modern version of the "TSR[1] tried to trademark 'Nazi'" meme of the 1990s.

Perhaps I flew off the handle, but I've whacked this mole way too many times.

[1]Sorry, "T$R".

 

[Saitou]

That's not quite accurate.
From this post http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=15647512&postcount=34

Oh , confirmation of d20 Modern Second Edition!

YESSSSS! Best day ever!

 

[beverson]

It's just that this KEEPS COMING UP.

Gosh, doesn't this sound familiar. Annoys the heck out of you, doesn't it? Let that sink in for a while....

 

[Lizard]

Gosh, doesn't this sound familiar. Annoys the heck out of you, doesn't it? Let that sink in for a while....

And if you can point to where I keep repeating a statement as fact after it's been contradicted by an official source, I'll be happy to stop saying it. Near as I can tell, most of annoying repetitions are of my opinions, not of putative facts. Indeed, I make a strong effort to couch anything I say in terms of "it seems" , "it looks like", "I get the impression that", etc. Perhaps I don't do this as often as I should, but I do try.

 

[Wolfspider]

Yeah I think Pazio will be making 4e stuff sooner than what they were saying they will

Did they actually put a timetable on when they would release 4e books? I seem to recall that months ago they were planning on doing 4e books with Necromancer Games. If I remembering carefully, that would mean that doing 4e was part of their short-term plans all along.....