Guardians - Welcome to the Wild Wild West (FULL)

[Calinon]

Hey Tyrlaan, can you make your OOC normal size? It's like ultra tiny and I really can't read it that well without cutting an pasting

 

[Gideon]

The attacks should strike simultaneously. The robots are firing off a limited supply of energy packets in the top mounted/under-mounted 'grenade' launchers on their gun arms. Rapid fire will be treated as the same DCs.

That being said. Longhorn has 2 stun and is knocked out. She is also in the back row and is prone(lying on her back).

Aztec would not cause cover for the back row because of the angles involved. Aztec was at the left end of the Guardian's formation(most eastern point) and moved forward 30' expanding 5'. The attacks came from the right side of the Droid formation(the western point).

tyrlaan:
You get from Leprechaun, who will let you mimic,
Abilities: Str- 10, Dex - 12(you keep your own), Con 16, Int 12, Wis - 10, Cha - 18
Feats: Hero's Luck x 2 (do you gain the HP temperarily?), Imp Initiative, Point Blank,
Precise Shot, Mental Link(Whisper)
Powers: Shrinking(Continuous, Permanent, Slow=your move is reduced to 20').
Steve's luck power is 7pp/rank so you don't get that. Steve also has some Super-science
gear. I would think that wouldn't be copied but that could be wrong.

 

[Synchronicity]

Feats: Hero's Luck x 2 (do you gain the HP temperarily?)

Ooh...that's a good question. Personally, I'd say Mimic letting you mimic Hero's Luck is some bad mojo, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Super Girl]

He should get the two HPs, he paid to be able to mimic feats, Heroic Luck is a feat like any other. Besides, he cannot actually pick up any powers from anyone because all our powers are too expensive, the only thing he'll get is the shrinking and thats a hinderance.

 

[Synchronicity]

Still, mimicking hero points sets a horrible precedent. I mean, you get a guy with Mimic and Gadgets or Variable Effect. If even one team member has Hero's Luck, he has a limitless store of Hero Points to play with. Oh dear, they're only temporary. Guess I'd better spend 'em on my Gadgets power before they go away, then. Even without such powers, that's a load of Extra Effort and re-rolls effectively for free (and removal of Stun hits, and..). Heck, as Calinon just mentioned in the IC thread, EE costs only take effect at the beginning of next round. Theoretically, Carbon could use EE to Mimic Leprechaun's Luck (by gaining Expanded Powers again) and then spend one of the new temporary HPs he just gained to ignore fatigue. Yipe. The possible implications makes me shiver. (Especially with the Extraordinary Effort option on HPs. Get Mr Everything, with Mimic [feats] at max, Cosmic Power at a low level and some other stuff, and his Sidekick, Hero Point Lad! Mix well and stir. Yes, it's an extreme example, which I'm not treating entirely seriously. Nevertheless, the idea of ever being able to gain additional HPs in game - short of GM fiat - worries me. One of the things I like most about HPs is that they're a finite resource.)

Oh, and tyrlaan did tweak his Mimic so he can copy I think 6pp/rank or less powers. That's most of ours - Leprechaun's Luck is only just out of his reach.

Synch.

 

[Calinon]

The hero point thing is easy. His total hero points can change. The number he uses carry over. So, right now he has six. He uses two. When he finishes being mimiced, he has 2/4 hero points left. So while he could, technically, use more hero points than he has, unless he mimics people with increasingly high heroes/villains luck, he isn't going to have much of an advantage.

 

[Super Girl]

Ty, you took All attributes 3 times, shouldn't you only take it once? You should be able to get 2 different extras instead of the redundant all attributes. Like continuous, or ranged, or another expanded powers or extra subject.

 

[Gideon]

tyrlaan took the all attributes three times because he applies it to each kind of mimicing. So he has

Mimic(Ability Scores-All Attributes)
Mimic(Feats- All Attributes)
Mimic(Powers - All Attributes)

Each time the All Attributes applies to a different category.

 

[Synchronicity]

The hero point thing is easy. His total hero points can change. The number he uses carry over. So, right now he has six. He uses two. When he finishes being mimiced, he has 2/4 hero points left. So while he could, technically, use more hero points than he has, unless he mimics people with increasingly high heroes/villains luck, he isn't going to have much of an advantage.

That seems to make sense, and avoids hideous exploitation of the rules. It was just the idea of 'free' hero points that made me all twitchy.

Synch.

 

[tyrlaan]

Hey Tyrlaan, can you make your OOC normal size? It's like ultra tiny and I really can't read it that well without cutting an pasting

No problem. I'll change that one and make sure not to do that again

Oh, and tyrlaan did tweak his Mimic so he can copy I think 6pp/rank or less powers. That's most of ours - Leprechaun's Luck is only just out of his reach.

Yup, Synch is correct. I tweaked Carbon so he can handle up to 6pp/rank.

You get from Leprechaun, who will let you mimic,
Abilities: Str- 10, Dex - 12(you keep your own), Con 16, Int 12, Wis - 10, Cha - 18
Feats: Hero's Luck x 2 (do you gain the HP temperarily?), Imp Initiative, Point Blank,
Precise Shot, Mental Link(Whisper)
Powers: Shrinking(Continuous, Permanent, Slow=your move is reduced to 20').
Steve's luck power is 7pp/rank so you don't get that. Steve also has some Super-science
gear. I would think that wouldn't be copied but that could be wrong.

I'm not sure either, but by virtue of my perception of how Carbon's powers work, I don't think he should be able to mimic gear.