Guess the McGuffin in Indy IV!

[Brown Jenkin]

I think with aging we are looking at late 40's to 50's. The dead sea scrolls seems the most obvious choice to me. They are only sort of known but not greatly known and they offer great opportunity for offending people. All you need to offend is finding a gnostic gospel that disagrees with the commonly accepted gospels. Recent examples are the the Gospel of Mary Magdeline and the Gospel of Judas. While the posibility of offensiveness is there it is also something that can be rewritten to make it less offensive depending on the writers desire. If you want something with real supernatural power and the possibility of offending people how about a Gospel of Jesus which would essentially be a diary. Jesus is still divine and it is in his own handwriting (which gives it its supernatural power) and does not contradict the holy grail or resurection but it could throw accepted biblical truths out the window offending some people. This is also something tangible that Indy can hunt and find and learn the truth about himself while still allowing for easy covering up at the end so that like the arc no-one currently knows abouts its existance or that it was found.

 

[Goodsport]

Will the offensive McGuffin in Indy IV end up being an offensive guy named McGuffin?


-G

 

[Villano]

Will the offensive McGuffin in Indy IV end up being an offensive guy named McGuffin?

Played by Tom Green?

 

[satori01]

Easy. Eschew any actual maguffin, except maybe for some phallic glowing stones. Make the movie a prequel to "Raiders" about a lost Indian temple to Kali that's mind-controlling hundreds of children to mine for... I'm not even sure what... and which has a priest who rips peoples' hearts out of their chests with magic. That way in "Raiders" when Indy scoffs at magic, we know he's just pulling our collective leg (or is really forgetful). Oh, and get rid of Karen Allen to add Kate Capshaw, and toss in a cute scrappy kid sidekick.

I might be wrong, but PC are you not in your 30's? Did you hate Temple of Doom with this passion upon first seeing it, assuming you were a kid, when you saw it? I loved Temple of Doom. I love the opening scene in the Hong Kong nightclub before the outbreak of war, It felt like Casablanca meets an old Random musical # from the films in the 40s. Facinated me as a child.

As a D&D player, the idea of Pancokt Palace, a site that always seems to corrupt whoever lived there to evil, inspired one of my longest runing dungeons in history. Practically every campaign I have ever ran has that gem in it.

I love the banter between Willie and Indie, I like Short Round for what he does, and I generally hate children in movies. I love the whole tension sequence leading to the discovery of the Kali temple and the hanging of the assasin with the whip.

I love the bugs, the collapsing room, and Indy's exclamation of "WE ARE GOING TO DIE". I love the way the Temple Looks, and ripping peoples hearts out is never a bad thing.

Lost Crusade is a hatable movie, no passion, no intrigue, no pathos... but Temple of Doom...lota good pieces in that film.

 

[Fast Learner]

nah, someones already eaten from the tree of knowledge. It's the tree of life that he'd be wanting to find

That even sounds better.

The concept of being able to effectively detect good and evil (which, since the series is myth-focused, could certainly be a power granted by the tree of knowledge still) would be pretty useful in a McCarthy-era setting, however.

 

[Fast Learner]

Lost Crusade is a hatable movie, no passion, no intrigue, no pathos... but Temple of Doom...lota good pieces in that film.

Wow, freaky.

In my case I was 20 when Temple of Doom came out, and it was a real let-down. Sure, still some good stuff, but lots of dragging and a comically disappointing villain. Crusade, on the other hand, was fantastic, on a par with Raiders.

 

[Silver Moon]

I might be wrong, but PC are you not in your 30's?

Barely. I'm a bit older but agree completely with his review. It was a real letdown after the greatness of Raiders.

Last Crusade is a hatable movie, no passion, no intrigue, no pathos.

You must have seen a different movie than I did, I loved it, especially the opening sequence with Young Indy.

 

[Villano]

Not that anyone asked me, but I kind of liked Temple Of Doom when I saw it as a kid, but even by high school, I, well, didn't dislike it, but didn't really have a desire to watch it again. Last Crusade, I loved. I still like that one.

Anyway, I was hoping that this Indy would be set in the '50s and handle a sci-fi theme (typical of films made at that time). Maybe Indy could investigate some lost UFO technology or something?

Regardless, I hope we get to see Indy lose his eye in this one. Most people in the audience probably weren't aware of the old, one-eyed Indy from the TV series. It would probably shock the hell out of them.

 

[Starman]

Am I the only one hoping that the movie falls through and doesn't get made? Leave well enough alone guys. You made two kick-ass movies and one average one. Let it be and move on to other things.

 

[Harmon]

The dagger that killed Caesar ("beware the eyes of march") course there is no mystical origins to that, which kinda got me thinking- what about the Oracle's pool? Then it struck me that there are cooler things to find then that- Fountain of Youth (Harrison could pass the mantel to someone younger).

What ever it is I am sure only someone really lucky will guess it or it will be completely obvious and everyone will have guessed.

Peace all, hope your next game day is the best you have ever had.