ppaladin123
Adventurer
http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?493302-GUIDE-Pacts-Patrons-and-Power-a-Warlock-guide
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D&D 5E [GUIDE] Power Overwhelming: A Sorcerer Guide
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http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?493302-GUIDE-Pacts-Patrons-and-Power-a-Warlock-guide
This sorcerer guide is up-to-date.
FullCaster
First Post
Hello, I love this guide and you have helped me select spells and a good path for the character I am building. I did noticed that the Grave Domain was not covered. What are your thoughts on that? Would it be on par with Death? Also, do you have any other guides of this nature for other classes? Just getting back into D&D and I am going to be in a group with all new players so I am sure they would appreciate the help. Thanks in advance.
FullCaster
First Post
This guide hasn't been updated and it probably won't get updated.
FullCaster
First Post
Wow I never noticed the Google Docs link. Thank you for pointing it out.
David Carter
First Post
Distant Spell:Remember that one time you really needed to shoot 300 feet, and the longest range spell you had was 150 ft, and the party got TPK’d because of it? Yeah… me neither... Can be ok for reaching runners, picking off enemy “snipers” or setting up funky ambushes, but I can’t think of a time in the last 15 years when my party fought stuff that far away and we NEEDED a sniper character to win. Reach with touch spells would be awesome if we had more than shocking grasp (Vampiric would be decent with this if you can get it on your list). Otherwise there are far too many better choices to pick this.
How about Counter Spell ... being able to counter with reaction at range 120 instead of 60 happens to me all the time ...
How about Counter Spell ... being able to counter with reaction at range 120 instead of 60 happens to me all the time ...
Cinderwolf
First Post
"Chosen of the Gods"- what the heck is it?
When discussing sorcerous origins, OP mentions Chosen by the Gods and has it highlighted in gold, meaning its excellent. He goes on to talk about giving sorcerers extra spells with it... but I can't seem to find a thing about it anywhere!
He has it under the Unearthed Arcana list.. which UA can I find this in??
When discussing sorcerous origins, OP mentions Chosen by the Gods and has it highlighted in gold, meaning its excellent. He goes on to talk about giving sorcerers extra spells with it... but I can't seem to find a thing about it anywhere!
He has it under the Unearthed Arcana list.. which UA can I find this in??
FullCaster
First Post
Type in "modifying classes 5e" in google. Then click the first link and scroll to the bottom.
bottleface
Villager
The ability mentioned no longer exists as Favoured Soul from the Unearthed Arcana series was changed to Divine Soul in Xanathar's Guide to Everything and that ability was altered. I was a bit confused too. If you click the link to google docs at the start of the guide it does take you to an updated version of this guide which uses the Divine Soul.
Introbulus
First Post
I joined this forum JUST to say!
...You forgot Tidal Wave in 3rd level spells.
...You forgot Tidal Wave in 3rd level spells.
Blue
Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Welcome to the forum, but that was not the most impressive first post. It ignores the bolded and large beginning of the post:
This was saved when the WotC forums shut down is 2015. It has not been taken over by the owner and Mistwell isn't trying to claim RhaegarT's work as his own and update it.
Tidal Wave came out in Xanathar's Guide to Everything that was published in 2017, would most definitely not be there. Nor would any of the other XGtE spells that Sorcerers get, a fairly large list which you missed in your criticism.
Alternately, if you looked at the Google Docs version, which is getting maintained, you will notice that Tidal Wave is listed:
Regardless of the history, a more positive introduction to the community would be "Hey, I noticed this spell isn't there so here's a write-up and a rating so we can improve this". Community feedback is common, take a look at the various guides here.
As it is, it comes across as bragging that the only reason you bothered to create an account was to call out someone's mistake. Which really wasn't one.
Looking forward to having you as a positive member of the community.
Introbulus
First Post
Thank you for the heads up - sorry for coming off abrasively, I hadn't realized there was a google doc version of it, nor that this was an archived post.
delph
Explorer
I was reading it twice, and I'm pretty sure, I can use quickened spell, to cast one spell as bonus action and then cast (same) spell twined -> so I can cast treetimes per round (good with cantrips. It cost only 2 spellpoints.
Bit it sounds too much good for 3th lvl...
And a other question: when I cast twined or quickened spell on XGoE cantrips, As Green flame Blade can I attack twice with weapon? Or I need to ve able Attack twice too? Hexblade with thirstling blade and 3 lvl of sorcerer sounds good.
Bit it sounds too much good for 3th lvl...
And a other question: when I cast twined or quickened spell on XGoE cantrips, As Green flame Blade can I attack twice with weapon? Or I need to ve able Attack twice too? Hexblade with thirstling blade and 3 lvl of sorcerer sounds good.
I have no idea if anyone still looks at this forum, but I consider myself something of a sorcerer expert (though I'm a DM of 19 years and rarely a player). I joined this forum just to add something that may have been overlooked about certain metamagic options that don't get enough love.
Distant Spell -- Its power is not about doubling the distance of your longer range spells, but rather your short to medium range spells. Touch to 30 feet is useful for high level save or die (ish) spells like plane shift, but it's more applicable to use that function for buffing allies you can't get close to for tactical reasons. But more importantly, increasing a range from 30 feet to 60 feet or 60 to 120 can make a HUGE difference in the kinds of encounters I run, where environmental effects are a factor, or entering the range of enemies is highly dangerous. You can stay safely out of range while still casting powerful spells into the combat. The most clutch use of distant spell, though, is for doubling the range of counterspell. Your DM might hate you, but you can counter out to a range of 120 feet while staying out of the counterspell range of enemy casters.
Subtle Spell -- Yes, situational, but I don't think it's getting enough credit. There are plenty of times that casting spells unnoticed before a combat breaks out is valuable, and while you mention RP uses, I think you downplay their significance. Creative sorcerer players will get a lot of use out of this. The other value of subtle spell is that you can use it to cast V, S (and V, S, M depending on your arcane focus) spells without the risk of being countered. Because there is nothing to see about your spellcasting, a caster looking to counterspell has nothing to react to. I know counterspell becomes a big issue in a lot of campaigns, and this is another use that might frustrate the DM but can keep you from wasting spells against enemy mages.
Oh, one edit: Great guide by the way! I like to compare my own conclusions to yours. It seems we tend to think alike, even about silly things like loving prismatic spray despite being sub-optimal. But yes, awesome work!
Distant Spell -- Its power is not about doubling the distance of your longer range spells, but rather your short to medium range spells. Touch to 30 feet is useful for high level save or die (ish) spells like plane shift, but it's more applicable to use that function for buffing allies you can't get close to for tactical reasons. But more importantly, increasing a range from 30 feet to 60 feet or 60 to 120 can make a HUGE difference in the kinds of encounters I run, where environmental effects are a factor, or entering the range of enemies is highly dangerous. You can stay safely out of range while still casting powerful spells into the combat. The most clutch use of distant spell, though, is for doubling the range of counterspell. Your DM might hate you, but you can counter out to a range of 120 feet while staying out of the counterspell range of enemy casters.
Subtle Spell -- Yes, situational, but I don't think it's getting enough credit. There are plenty of times that casting spells unnoticed before a combat breaks out is valuable, and while you mention RP uses, I think you downplay their significance. Creative sorcerer players will get a lot of use out of this. The other value of subtle spell is that you can use it to cast V, S (and V, S, M depending on your arcane focus) spells without the risk of being countered. Because there is nothing to see about your spellcasting, a caster looking to counterspell has nothing to react to. I know counterspell becomes a big issue in a lot of campaigns, and this is another use that might frustrate the DM but can keep you from wasting spells against enemy mages.
Oh, one edit: Great guide by the way! I like to compare my own conclusions to yours. It seems we tend to think alike, even about silly things like loving prismatic spray despite being sub-optimal. But yes, awesome work!
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delph
Explorer
Hi Adamango, I'm much more shorter player, and playing sorcerer for first time now.
Distant spell - agree with everything and add one - when you are on open word, dealing with enemies on fields, roads, seas - combined distant spell with Spellsniper is great! When GM is used to say "an enemy is running away out of your distant" you have usually 2 rounds to send something to his back. Or before they came to you.
Subtle spell - agree with every word. For all other campaign where I'm rogue fighter, but sorcerer is there (or cleric), we start every second battle from surprise. How many times we said "aaah, we can't cast any buff spells because Voice compound of spell"
Distant spell - agree with everything and add one - when you are on open word, dealing with enemies on fields, roads, seas - combined distant spell with Spellsniper is great! When GM is used to say "an enemy is running away out of your distant" you have usually 2 rounds to send something to his back. Or before they came to you.
Subtle spell - agree with every word. For all other campaign where I'm rogue fighter, but sorcerer is there (or cleric), we start every second battle from surprise. How many times we said "aaah, we can't cast any buff spells because Voice compound of spell"
