H.O.B. Haters Of Bards

Even though their is a lot talk/rumors out there about the bards, IMO its still a pathetic class to play. Will 3.5 fix the class like it did the Ranger (damn close), and how to do you suppose they will help it out?


H.O.G. Haters of Gnomes
 

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I think that, in real life, bards would be the ones that really, seriously, survive most adventures. I mean - they should be - someone has to live to tell the stories.

Seriously, how can you hate the bard. So maybe they can't exactly chop everyone in two or turn people into ash or heal everyone in a snap or backstab you to death....but they can sorta do all of this - AND they can sing. I mean, come on.

Any adventure that isn't combat heavy is an adventure for the bard....unfortunately, most adventures ARE combat heavy. I think it's just a problem with the system, not the class.

O - but I do hate the idea of gnome bards. I mean, gnomes are NOT charismatic. They are annoying and pull tricks on people. That's it.
 

Zogg said:
unfortunately, most adventures ARE combat heavy. I think it's just a problem with the system, not the class

Nonsense. If adventures are combat heavy, that's a problem with the people who design adventures.
 

Umbran said:


Nonsense. If adventures are combat heavy, that's a problem with the people who design adventures.

OK you are right.

**goes off to sing an ode to Umbran's wisdom...tra la la**
**all within range receive +1 to various stuff**
 

The Rouges and the thieves survive the most, but Bards do come in sencond place. The only thing they got going for em is the Bardic Lore and thier music abbilities. It is true that they suffer no arcane spell failure while wearing armor? I do agree that gnomes arn't charismatic, and the thought of a Gnomish Bard (favored class now) disgusts me! I liked them better as illusionist!:D
 


I'm reminded of one conversation at the gaming table:

"...but a Rogue without his sneak attack is about as much good as... um... as a..."

"Bard?"
 

Virgil Sagecaster said:
Even though their is a lot talk/rumors out there about the bards, IMO its still a pathetic class to play. Will 3.5 fix the class like it did the Ranger (damn close), and how to do you suppose they will help it out?


H.O.G. Haters of Gnomes

i somehow sensed that 3.5 would put the gnome haters and bard haters in the same camp. what a mighty force to be reckoned with.






mighty whiney :p
 


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