Hair spray and spandex did mix for a time...
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IronWolf said:
Even though Warrant is clearly better.
John Q. Mayhem
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Don't know either.
Iron Maiden is great. I love their subject matter-the Battle of Britain, the Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Young Goodman Brown, the Charge of the Light Brigade, Daedelus and Icarus. I call 'em a thinking man's metal.
A funny thing happened a while back. I was playing Red Faction, and defending Maiden against some anti-metal Philistines with another fan. I mentioned some of this, called 'em a thinking man's metal, and the other fan just...said, "OK, whatever" or something. He had no idea what I waws talking about
Iron Maiden is great. I love their subject matter-the Battle of Britain, the Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Young Goodman Brown, the Charge of the Light Brigade, Daedelus and Icarus. I call 'em a thinking man's metal.
A funny thing happened a while back. I was playing Red Faction, and defending Maiden against some anti-metal Philistines with another fan. I mentioned some of this, called 'em a thinking man's metal, and the other fan just...said, "OK, whatever" or something. He had no idea what I waws talking about
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Got to go with the majority here, Maiden all the way! No pansy-ass power-ballad poser metal for me.
Although I must say, when I did see Skid Row, they weren't bad. And they at least had the decency to bring Pantara along to open for them.
Although I must say, when I did see Skid Row, they weren't bad. And they at least had the decency to bring Pantara along to open for them.
Desdichado
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Indeed. Well, Twisted Sister was a one-hit wonder (and their one hit was a remake of a Queen song at that) and Poison were a bunch of guys that tried to be as pretty as possible, But I'll definately go with Mötley Crüe and Ratt, and maybe throw in Quiet Riot for laughs.Lord Mhoram said:
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stevelabny
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Waitaminute.
Metallica and Bon Jovi were the two bands to survive. So that probably means they should get some sort of nod. (And are indeed two of my faves) Of course, these two had some concept of music, which a lot of the other copycat bands didnt have.
But every child of the 80s knows that the BEST hair band was Guns N' F'n Roses
If GNR stayed together, rock would never have lost its way, and MTV wouldnt suck quite so much. Axl was Madonna and Michael Jackson and every 2-year career Rap star rolled into one.
But for these two? Warrant wins. Cherry Pie is a classic album.
Metallica and Bon Jovi were the two bands to survive. So that probably means they should get some sort of nod. (And are indeed two of my faves) Of course, these two had some concept of music, which a lot of the other copycat bands didnt have.
But every child of the 80s knows that the BEST hair band was Guns N' F'n Roses
If GNR stayed together, rock would never have lost its way, and MTV wouldnt suck quite so much. Axl was Madonna and Michael Jackson and every 2-year career Rap star rolled into one.
But for these two? Warrant wins. Cherry Pie is a classic album.
Warrior Poet
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To my mind, there's a couple of different questions going on with the thread.
The poll asks, of the two bands, Warrant and Skid Row, which is better. So, I voted in the context of the two bands as options in the poll. However, the question TracerBullet42 also poses in his first post says, specifically, "which eighties screaming rock band reigned supreme?"
To which I must say, of the options presented in the poll, neither. Why? Neither of those two bands reigned supreme at anything (as far as I'm concerned; not saying they didn't have some talent or ability, but reign supreme? Nah), and neither was a "screaming rock band."
Hair band? Yep, both qualify. In which case, I still suggest neither reigned supreme, and I'd have to go with Motley Crüe for the '80s on the hair band front. Success, sold out shows, big fan showing, big hair, lots of makeup, all that the Crüe had.
BUT, in the category of "screaming rock band" and "reigning supreme," it's Maiden all the way. They don't call Bruce Dickinson "the air raid siren" for nothing, and as for reigning supreme, Maiden rocks longer, louder, and harder (and frequently more intelligently) than just about anybody else.
Excellent point on Metallica, stevelabny. Maiden also survived. Maybe not as much in the U.S. (where they've always had a harder time breaking big anyway; Europe and the rest of the world loves 'em, but the U.S. mainstream media never shows the love, even if they have many devoted U.S. fans), but they're still cranking out good albums (like any artist, they've had a few that weren't so great). So if survival is an indicator of reigning supreme, I still say Maiden. Dickinson's voice still screams - he doesn't appear to have lost any power over the years, and the band's playing continues to unfold in diverse, interesting, complex ways (as a bass player, everytime I listen to a new Maiden offering, I marvel at Steve Harris' compositions and lines. How does he do that?)
Also, Bon Jovi: screaming rock band? Hmmm . . . maybe. Hair band? Maybe. Pop metal rocker with part time acting career? That feels more like it to me.
'Tallica. I love 'em, too, and have ever since my introduction to them (I heard Master of Puppets first), and they are truly a giant in the music world (as they should be), but I don't think of them as "screaming rock band." I certainly don't think of them as a hair band. I do think they're thrash/speed metal/true heavy metal, a category or series of categories in which Warrant and Skid Row do not fall, I think. Metallica has also had tremendous longevity, as you note, and so maybe they would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Maiden in the '80s. Master of Puppets is still one of the all-time single greatest metal contributions ever, as far as I'm concerned, and over the years they have continued to do interesting things with music, and having seen them live three times, I can definitely say they really rock. So, good call on Metallica.
And now that I've thought and talked about this way too much, it's time to get some coffee!
Warrior Poet
The poll asks, of the two bands, Warrant and Skid Row, which is better. So, I voted in the context of the two bands as options in the poll. However, the question TracerBullet42 also poses in his first post says, specifically, "which eighties screaming rock band reigned supreme?"
To which I must say, of the options presented in the poll, neither. Why? Neither of those two bands reigned supreme at anything (as far as I'm concerned; not saying they didn't have some talent or ability, but reign supreme? Nah), and neither was a "screaming rock band."
Hair band? Yep, both qualify. In which case, I still suggest neither reigned supreme, and I'd have to go with Motley Crüe for the '80s on the hair band front. Success, sold out shows, big fan showing, big hair, lots of makeup, all that the Crüe had.
BUT, in the category of "screaming rock band" and "reigning supreme," it's Maiden all the way. They don't call Bruce Dickinson "the air raid siren" for nothing, and as for reigning supreme, Maiden rocks longer, louder, and harder (and frequently more intelligently) than just about anybody else.
Again, distinction of hair band. Actually, I don't really think of G'n'R as a hair band, I think of them more along the lines of "screaming rock band." I think you can make a good case for G'n'R, but Maiden still wins, in my opinion, for a couple of reasons. 1) Longevity. 2) G'n'R were at least as famous for their ballads ("Patience", "November Rain", "Sweet Child o' Mine" et al.) as they were for their blistering rockers (and their rockers did, indeed, rock). 3) And again, context specific, in the '80s, it's Maiden. G'n'R really started to come into their own, and get the big recognition at the end of the '80s/beginning of the early '90s (yes, I know they were around for a while - Appetite for Destruction was a 1987 release; it picked up steam fast).stevelabny said:
I've clearly established myself as a semantics monkey on this, so I'll just keep that train rollin'.stevelabny said:
Excellent point on Metallica, stevelabny. Maiden also survived. Maybe not as much in the U.S. (where they've always had a harder time breaking big anyway; Europe and the rest of the world loves 'em, but the U.S. mainstream media never shows the love, even if they have many devoted U.S. fans), but they're still cranking out good albums (like any artist, they've had a few that weren't so great). So if survival is an indicator of reigning supreme, I still say Maiden. Dickinson's voice still screams - he doesn't appear to have lost any power over the years, and the band's playing continues to unfold in diverse, interesting, complex ways (as a bass player, everytime I listen to a new Maiden offering, I marvel at Steve Harris' compositions and lines. How does he do that?)
Also, Bon Jovi: screaming rock band? Hmmm . . . maybe. Hair band? Maybe. Pop metal rocker with part time acting career? That feels more like it to me.
'Tallica. I love 'em, too, and have ever since my introduction to them (I heard Master of Puppets first), and they are truly a giant in the music world (as they should be), but I don't think of them as "screaming rock band." I certainly don't think of them as a hair band. I do think they're thrash/speed metal/true heavy metal, a category or series of categories in which Warrant and Skid Row do not fall, I think. Metallica has also had tremendous longevity, as you note, and so maybe they would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Maiden in the '80s. Master of Puppets is still one of the all-time single greatest metal contributions ever, as far as I'm concerned, and over the years they have continued to do interesting things with music, and having seen them live three times, I can definitely say they really rock. So, good call on Metallica.
And now that I've thought and talked about this way too much, it's time to get some coffee!
Warrior Poet
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