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Umbran

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Basically, Lin felt that William Daniels, who originated the role of John Adams in 1776. was so iconic that everyone will just picture William Daniels' version of the character and know exactly what they're talking about.

He was obnoxious and disliked, we know that sir.

Amittedly, I'm in Massachusetts. We have a soft spot in our hearts for our loudmouth lawmakers. None of them perfect, but there's a bit of a tradition, starting with Adams.
 

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Not just irrelevant, but... I know Hamilton and Adams didn't get along, but Hamilton also would not have had a nation to be Secretary of the Treasury of were it not for Adams. And, having this number would have the show give multiple nods to Revolutionary history in musicals (see 1776)... but always in a negative form. So, maybe not the right message.

Oh, and the point about Abigail... that's pretty crappy.
Yes, Adams actually went home and spent time with his wife, who was a remarkable and formidable woman in her own right, and Adams clearly loved her deeply. And when Hamilton didn't see his own wife... he effectively destroyed his own career. So, maybe he shouldn't talk.



It isn't like Hamilton was all that staunch of an abolitionist. While he did write against the practice, he also bought and sold them for his in-laws, so...
John Adams is my 1st cousin, 8 times removed. He was a pretty good guy, from what I've learned.

Hamilton attacking his wife was definitely a low blow.
 


so one of the lines in Alexander Hamilton is "a diamond in the rough" which implies that Hamilton could have also gone into the cave of wonders and gotten the Genie's lamp like Aladdin did.
The musical has dozens of references and other cool stuff like that. For example, it's considered bad luck to whistle on or off stage, which they do in "Blow us all away".
 




Umbran

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Well, he refers to the "Scottish tragedy" which is the typical nomenclature by theatrical curse lore, and then calls himself, out loud, Macbeth, in the very next line.

Technically, the curse forbids speaking the name Macbeth inside the theater, except as called for in the script while rehearsing or performing. So, speaking the name Macbeth as part of the play is fine. Having a literary discussion of how Macbeth and Hamilton are similar in the dressing room is not.
 

Well, he refers to the "Scottish tragedy" which is the typical nomenclature by theatrical curse lore, and then calls himself, out loud, Macbeth, in the very next line.
Technically, the curse forbids speaking the name Macbeth inside the theater, except as called for in the script while rehearsing or performing. So, speaking the name Macbeth as part of the play is fine. Having a literary discussion of how Macbeth and Hamilton are similar in the dressing room is not.
Also, he names the character Macbeth, and not the play, so the curse was not invoked. (This is what I'd heard at least, correct me if I'm wrong)
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
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Also, he names the character Macbeth, and not the play, so the curse was not invoked. (This is what I'd heard at least, correct me if I'm wrong)

Yes, he speaks the character's name, rather than the play's. My sources of theater lore are not consistent on whether that matters, so I suppose it is all a matter of how much you want to risk...
 

Janx

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The biggest problem is that the rest of the cast can basically sing circles around Lin. Oh, he's plenty good, we're not talking the same writing-to-vocals talent disparity as, say, a Bob Dylan, but he just doesn't quite hold his own among the rest of the incredible talent surrounding him.

An interesting tidbit of trivia, but Lin originally conceptualized himself playing Aaron Burr, and if memory serves didn't make the decision to cast himself as Hamilton instead until relatively late in the writing process. I personally think it was the right choice, but it's definitely one of the more intriguing casting "what-ifs", it's really hard to imagine him and Leslie Odom Jr switching roles.



Lin's voice struggles to cut through the mix at times, making it harder to hear what he's saying.

I liked the show. The music, lyrics, plot, presentation were genius. My hearing problems + Lin at times made it a challenge.

I'll have to watch it again and hope osmosis and repetition fill in the blanks (and maybe closed captioning).
 

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