Handle Animal/Ride

[Dandu]

Horses deal with members of the canis lupus family all the time.

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

Horses deal with members of the canis lupus family all the time.

I see what you're saying. Asking the question, "Can a Horse, Mule or Donkey tell the difference between a domesticated Dog and a wild Wolf?"

If the answer is no, and the beast of burden has been raised around dogs, than no fear/refusal penalties.

You still end up with the horse carrying a creature on it's back in an unusual fashion, with an unconscious creature laying across the back or saddle. Assuming that's not too complicated, and the owner/handler of the beast of burden is towing the reigns, reasonable handle animal checks would keep the horse moving along.

Maybe DC 20 is the way to go. if the longways unconscious creature is unusual enough, than go with a DC 25 "Push".

 

[Sekhmet]

Actually, it's extremely well documented that domesticated horses go pretty crazy when they even smell a wolf. It was a major concern where I used to live, in northern Idaho, where people would raise horses.

The horses would get extremely agitated, become nigh inconsolable, occasionally fleeing or even biting or kicking at their handlers if they got too close.

 

[Dandu]

I wonder what the difference in scent is between a wolf and a dog.

 

[Jackinthegreen]

I believe this calls for asking... My Little Pony.

Interviewer: Hello Pinkie Pie, would you let an unconscious wolf ride on your back?
Pinkie Pie: Cupcakes!

And Dandu, you totally should have kept that video in.

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

I see what you're saying. Asking the question, "Can a Horse, Mule or Donkey tell the difference between a domesticated Dog and a wild Wolf?"

Actually, it's extremely well documented that domesticated horses go pretty crazy when they even smell a wolf. It was a major concern where I used to live, in northern Idaho, where people would raise horses.

The horses would get extremely agitated, become nigh inconsolable, occasionally fleeing or even biting or kicking at their handlers if they got too close.

So then if the answer is Yes, add on DM situational penalties, as suggested.

 

[Dandu]

I believe this calls for asking... My Little Pony.

Interviewer: Hello Pinkie Pie, would you let an unconscious wolf ride on your back?
Pinkie Pie: Cupcakes!

And Dandu, you totally should have kept that video in.

What, this one?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vel-bo84nvc[/ame]

I took it out because a wolfdog is a hybrid, not a true wolf.

Though they're still kinda dangerous. And liable to go feral. And attack people.

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

What, this one?

I waited the entire time for the dog to get kicked. That is a very patient horse.

 

[RedTonic]

Well, you may find this part material: the wolf was part of a pack which had attacked mounts and party, and as a result was KO'd. The PC decided to save the wolf after the battle, while the rest of the party made sure to finish off any fallen wolves. (The rest of the pack, however, escaped.) So it is a creature that caused the mule to have a Very Bad Night.

I think I will definitely qualify this as a "push" from now on with a minimum 25 DC, so I will let that player know before the next session. The wolf thing has been a pretty interesting addition that I definitely did not anticipate and has helped to draw out two of the PCs.

Going back to my OP, does anyone know of any useful netbooks or supplements that expand on handle animal & ride? Critters are becoming an ever-larger part of my campaign world. c_c

 

[Celebrim]

I agree that it is pushing, but that if the horse is trained to bear a rider that after 3 or so times successfully bearing a dog or wolf on its back it will calm down about the whole process and being considered to have pick that trick up as a 'ride' variation. (This is generous, because we could probably get away with calling it a whole knew trick)

Also because warhorses are extremely tempermental animals that don't eagerly bear any rider they aren't acustomed to, I'd probably apply a +2 racial modifier based on the particular animals temperment. A nice gentle palfry that doesn't shy or spook easily by nature might get a -3 DC modifeir or better.