Dark Psion
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Apok said:
Don't you hate it when someone posts a link like this and you spend the whole evening at it?
Has FR "jumped the shark"?
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Don't you hate it when someone posts a link like this and you spend the whole evening at it?
Dark Helmet
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Mr Fidgit said:
I still want to know how they got the shark ON the bike in the first place.
And did Fonzie have a wooden leg named Smith?
For me, the Realms jumped the shark when I found out that Elminster used to be a woman.
MeepoTheMighty
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Dark Psion said:
Don't you hate it when someone posts a link like this and you spend the whole evening at it?
Heh. Ain't it true, though. I wasted a good hour and a half at work on that site.
It's all about having Ted McGinley as the patron saint
Dr. Strangemonkey
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The Ancient Mariner
Is there anyone, anyone at all, who, deep in their heart of hearts, would join me in saying that, regardless of whether or not the novels and the published adventures about it may or may not have sucked, the Time of Troubles was....
...actually...
...a kind of fun idea?
Is there anyone, anyone at all, who, deep in their heart of hearts, would join me in saying that, regardless of whether or not the novels and the published adventures about it may or may not have sucked, the Time of Troubles was....
...actually...
...a kind of fun idea?
Time of Troubles
I'll second that one.
I played it out with my PC's as a "critical part" to the story, ultimate helping to save Tymora from an awful fate.
We had a blast.
I concur with the posters who say the third ed stuff is some of the best they've put out in years. Definitely! Original material again, at last!
In our home "Realms" campaign, the DM's have agreed to going around and taking out most of the Realms' iconic characters including Elminster, Laeral, and Storm. I like the direction they've taken with Alustriel, so she's still around. We also ran Khelbhen off in a different direction...
Halaster made a chosen and returned from sanity??? Uhm, no.
I thought that several people brought up good examples (especially from the 2nd Edition days) where the realms had really lost it. The new setting books became retreads of old material.
I'll second that one.
I played it out with my PC's as a "critical part" to the story, ultimate helping to save Tymora from an awful fate.
We had a blast.
I concur with the posters who say the third ed stuff is some of the best they've put out in years. Definitely! Original material again, at last!
In our home "Realms" campaign, the DM's have agreed to going around and taking out most of the Realms' iconic characters including Elminster, Laeral, and Storm. I like the direction they've taken with Alustriel, so she's still around. We also ran Khelbhen off in a different direction...
Halaster made a chosen and returned from sanity??? Uhm, no.
I thought that several people brought up good examples (especially from the 2nd Edition days) where the realms had really lost it. The new setting books became retreads of old material.
Arnwyn
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That's a good question... IMO, it did just before 3e, with the book "Cloak & Dagger" (as another poster noted, the beginning of the Manshoon Wars and the clones. The clones!).
I think it's continued with 3e FR (which I dislike), but that's only because the recent books have suffered from terrible conversions (but then again, I'm an old curmudgeon with my pants pulled up to my chest...). If I were a newbie to FR I'd probably like it.
The FR novels definitely jumped the shark a long time ago, IMO. The new ones just exacerbates the situation (Elminster in Hell? The whole Shade thing?). But that's just me!
I think it's continued with 3e FR (which I dislike), but that's only because the recent books have suffered from terrible conversions (but then again, I'm an old curmudgeon with my pants pulled up to my chest...). If I were a newbie to FR I'd probably like it.
The FR novels definitely jumped the shark a long time ago, IMO. The new ones just exacerbates the situation (Elminster in Hell? The whole Shade thing?). But that's just me!
Krail Stromquism
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What about the Bull?
Didnt Fonzie also Ride a Bull w/ Leather Jacket? then Jumps the Shark?
And I thought he jumped it on his bike, the shark being in a big tank or something? I remember running up the stairs form the basement screaming, my parents freaked out and thought I was being mauled and I was like "FONZIES GOING TO JUMP THE SHARK!" and there were like "......."
anyway, FR jumped the Shark ages ago, it still does. City of the Spiderqueen, BoVD, FR novels. Come on people! reading that stuff is like wearing panties made of vaseline!
Dont get me wrong, I run a FR game now and it rocks, I have to ignore half the published storyline of the realms cause its not Fonzie jumping a shark, its more like Pamela Anderson and Gina Gershon with new bigger breast implants inacting a lesbian love scene riding in a giant Martini glass jumping over Victorias Secret models having a pillow fight on a huge mound of Velveta!
Anyhow, good luck and godspeed, I have to go make more room on my bookshelf for this schlockfest we call the Realms!
Didnt Fonzie also Ride a Bull w/ Leather Jacket? then Jumps the Shark?
And I thought he jumped it on his bike, the shark being in a big tank or something? I remember running up the stairs form the basement screaming, my parents freaked out and thought I was being mauled and I was like "FONZIES GOING TO JUMP THE SHARK!" and there were like "......."
anyway, FR jumped the Shark ages ago, it still does. City of the Spiderqueen, BoVD, FR novels. Come on people! reading that stuff is like wearing panties made of vaseline!
Dont get me wrong, I run a FR game now and it rocks, I have to ignore half the published storyline of the realms cause its not Fonzie jumping a shark, its more like Pamela Anderson and Gina Gershon with new bigger breast implants inacting a lesbian love scene riding in a giant Martini glass jumping over Victorias Secret models having a pillow fight on a huge mound of Velveta!
Anyhow, good luck and godspeed, I have to go make more room on my bookshelf for this schlockfest we call the Realms!
Tyler Do'Urden
Soap Maker
Greyhawk: Jumped the shark long before my time.
Forgotten Realms: Probably jumped the shark with the Time of Troubles- but could have caught it's second wind with 3e. I know my friends love it at least.
Dragonlance: Jumped the shark with Dragons of the Summer Flame. Best Dragonlance novel ever- but it destroyed the setting.
Planescape: Jumped the shark with Faction War, and promptly vanished from existence. Still missing in action.
Spelljammer: It didn't even need a shark to jump- it was there from the beginning.
Mystara: Converted to 2nd edition AD&D. Dead on arrival.
Dark Sun: Hell if I know.
Birthright: Poor setting. Killed before it had a chance to mature.
[EDIT]- By "poor setting", under Birthright, I meant that I felt sorry for it- not that it was a bad setting. It was quite interesting, actually.
Forgotten Realms: Probably jumped the shark with the Time of Troubles- but could have caught it's second wind with 3e. I know my friends love it at least.
Dragonlance: Jumped the shark with Dragons of the Summer Flame. Best Dragonlance novel ever- but it destroyed the setting.
Planescape: Jumped the shark with Faction War, and promptly vanished from existence. Still missing in action.
Spelljammer: It didn't even need a shark to jump- it was there from the beginning.
Mystara: Converted to 2nd edition AD&D. Dead on arrival.
Dark Sun: Hell if I know.
Birthright: Poor setting. Killed before it had a chance to mature.
[EDIT]- By "poor setting", under Birthright, I meant that I felt sorry for it- not that it was a bad setting. It was quite interesting, actually.
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Maraxle said:
Reading one Ed Greenwood novel, Spellfire, was enough to kill any desire I had to read another piece of his writing. I'd say the Realms went all funny at the Time of Trouble, bad novels and bad adventures. It was just bad. Then I really lost interest in the setting.
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