D&D General Have Githzerai always been jerks?

[Xenonnonex]

From Murdy Kurdy's Foam of Toes ->
"The Githzerai do not intentionally endanger the natural denizens of a plane but they never compromise a planned attack on the githyanki just to protect innocent bystanders. In battling githyanki the end justifies the means"


Also. Menyar-Ag is quite clearly the God-Emperor of 40k.

Watch the language, please.

 

[Parmandur]

From Murdy Kurdy's Foam of Toes ->
"The Githzerai do not intentionally endanger the natural denizens of a plane but they never compromise a planned attack on the githyanki just to protect innocent bystanders. In battling githyanki the end justifies the means"


Also. Menyar-Ag is quite clearly the God-Emperor of 40k.

Yes, just less so than their psycho cousins.

Pretty sure he predates WH40K.

 

[Lanefan]

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: yes; right along with their equally-horrible cousins the Githyanki.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Yes. Not being evil is not the same as being good.

 

[DammitVictor]

They were invented by George RR Martin. You have no idea just how lucky we have it.

 

[Jadeite]

That's pretty close to the way some real world nations act.

 

[S'mon]

They're still CN right?

 

[Jadeite]

They're still CN right?

They became neutral in 3e and LN in 5e.

 

[DammitVictor]

Yeah, I understand how you need to change the rules in a new edition, but what's up with the constant, unannounced changes to the fluff with each and every iteration of the rules?

Nothing about Githzerai behavior has changed from Fiend Folio to Planescape to Expanded Psionics Handbook to Player's Handbook 3 to... wherever they debuted in 5e. They were made LN because they're a monastic culture... but they didn't even manage to become LN until it was no longer a requirement for the Monk class.

 

[S'mon]

Yeah, I understand how you need to change the rules in a new edition, but what's up with the constant, unannounced changes to the fluff with each and every iteration of the rules?

Nothing about Githzerai behavior has changed from Fiend Folio to Planescape to Expanded Psionics Handbook to Player's Handbook 3 to... wherever they debuted in 5e. They were made LN because they're a monastic culture... but they didn't even manage to become LN until it was no longer a requirement for the Monk class.

Lake Geneva TSR: "Githzerai aren't evil, but they are jerks ...CN!"
Seattle WotC: "Githzerai aren't evil, but they are jerks ...LN!"