Have We Seen Half-Orcs Yet?


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As for half-orcs, I hoped to see the way half-breeds were done be slightly different in this edition. Since they seem to indicate that races give you a small front-loading and some level-based benefits later, I would have liked to see half-breeds select one race for their front-loading, and the other race for level-based benefits (if it made sense, of course). That way, you get the best of both worlds.
 



Zogmo said:
FIND MORE PIE!
Specifically, Masterwork pie.

Then you'll want some silver pie, or perhaps some cold iron-supplemented pie.

Eventually, you'll craft or find some magic pie, but until you do, don't neglect your pie buff spells: (greater) magic pie, keen wedge, etc.

At high levels, you can begin to augment your pies with custom crusts, using spells like anti-plant shell (for meat pies) or even anti-life shell (for mud pies), and the dreaded curse of the master Necromancer: piebite.

Cheers, -- N
 

drothgery said:
Hmm... these seem pretty obvious
Human Cleric
Dwarf Fighter
Elf Ranger
Halfling Rogue
Tiefling Warlock
Eladrin Wizard

If half-orcs are the eighth race, I suppose that makes it ...
half-elf Paladin
half-orc Warlord
... but I kind of picture Warlord as a charismatic type, and it's hard to re-imagine half-orcs as stereotypically playing a charisma-based class.

I'd go with:

Human Paladin
Dwarf Cleric
Elf Ranger
Halfling Rogue
Tiefling Warlock
Eladrin Wizard
Half-Elf Warlord
Half-Orc Fighter

Human Paladin's nicely iconic, and it means the (likely) charismatic Warlord is served by the (almost certainly) charismatic Half-Elf.
 


OakwoodDM said:
I'd go with:

Human Paladin
Dwarf Cleric
Elf Ranger
Halfling Rogue
Tiefling Warlock
Eladrin Wizard
Half-Elf Warlord
Half-Orc Fighter

Or maybe:

-Human Rogue

-Dwarf Wizard

-Eladrin Fighter

-Elf Cleric

-Half-elf Fighter

-Halfling Warlord

-Half-orc Warlock

-Tiefling Paladin
 

I've never been a fan of Gnomes, never understood how they made it into the 3Ed PHB, and wouldn't miss them from 4Ed. However, I'm a huge fan of Half-orcs, so if they get left behind and lost in the Teifling's dust-trail, I guess I know how the Gnome fans are feeling right now. Group hug anybody?

I think half-races offer great opportunity for roleplay. I currently have two active half-orc characters in Living Greyhawk, and chose to play them quite differently:

Darebin, half-orc monk - has seen many atrocities performed by the hands of humans, and regards the current plight of orcs a direct result of being denied sharing the advantages of more civilised societies. Darebin refuses to deal lethal damage to orcs or half-orcs, instead using unarmed damage to take them down before deciding their fate. Darebin introduces himself as "half-human", a pointed reminder to those who judge by first impressions and on seeing his "orc" parentage assume the worst. Skill focus: Diplomacy.

Blunt, half-orc rogue/ranger - blames his orc parentage for everything that has gone wrong in his life, and actively hunts down his own kind (favoured enemy: Orc), misplacing revenge for his own frustrations in life, failing to realise such actions bring him closer to being that which he so despises. Skill focus: Intimidate.

Paizo's Pathfinder campaign have a good background for half-orcs - warlike orc clans long ago discovered that breeding with humans produced whelps of greater cunning and discipline and have since preyed upon native humans tribes for this purpose. See, not so difficult to justify.

In Living Arcanis, I play a Dark-kin character - so I guess Tieflings could kill my Half-orcs and steal their stuff :-(

If some creatures will be given PC options in the MM (eg Gnome, Shifter, Half-orc?), I hope these will be legally playable in Living Campaigns, and not be off-limits.

Now that Shifter has been confirmed to be in the MM and not PHB, I predict that PHB2 will feature Eberron races and classes to co-incide with the re-launch of the Eberron Campaign Setting in 2009 - Shifters, Changelings, Warforged, and Psionic classes for use with the Kalashtar race.

If future PHBs are themed, we might see half-orcs reappear in a savaged themed PHB3 with centaurs, lizardfolk, druids and shaman classes, for example.
 

Baby Samurai said:
Or maybe:

-Human Rogue

-Dwarf Wizard

-Eladrin Fighter

-Elf Cleric

-Half-elf Fighter

-Halfling Warlord

-Half-orc Warlock

-Tiefling Paladin

Or just:

Human Fighter.

That way, no rants about how class A is overpowered compared to class B or how race X got the shaft. Everyone's Human, everyone's a Fighter. There's no magic, no gods and no...um...sneaky backstabbery. I think I just fixed DnD!
 

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