Healing Surge Damage

[Falstaff]

Hello,

What happens when a Deathlock Wight damages you with a claw attack but you have no healing surges left to lose?

Anything?

 

[Infiniti2000]

Nothing per the rules though a common houserule would be based on the starvation, thirst, and suffocation rule: "A character without healing surges who fails a check takes damage equal to his level."

 

[Falstaff]

Nothing per the rules though a common houserule would be based on the starvation, thirst, and suffocation rule: "A character without healing surges who fails a check takes damage equal to his level."

Huh, okay thanks.

 

[OnlineDM]

I'd house-rule it to say that the PC takes damage equal to its healing surge value, but that's just me.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I would say, you take damage equal to half your bloodied value... as your healing surge may be higher because of feats or features, and you don´t want to penalize this...

On the other hand, maybe better stick with RAW, as usually someone without surges is already close to death anyways...

 

[Unwise]

RaW nothing happens.

I make it count as a failed death saving throw. If you die as a result of this, you turn into an undead. Then again, my games are borderline 4th core.

 

[wlmartin]

Hello,

What happens when a Deathlock Wight damages you with a claw attack but you have no healing surges left to lose?

Anything?

Nothing unless it states.
There are creatures (Blood Elemental I think is one) where if you have no HS left, it does a specific amount of damage (usually equal to their HS value)... however there is no general rule that would say the character takes the damage normally... it would only be if it is included in the Stat Block of the monster.

 

[MortalPlague]

Huh... I always thought the 'take damage equal to your healing surge value' was the actual rule. Anyway, that's the house rule I would use, though I've honestly never had it come up. I don't often use monsters that hit for surges.

 

[wlmartin]

Huh... I always thought the 'take damage equal to your healing surge value' was the actual rule. Anyway, that's the house rule I would use, though I've honestly never had it come up. I don't often use monsters that hit for surges.

I am fairly sure there isnt a rule for this...

 

[S'mon]

I'd definitely count it as 1/4 max hp damage. Edit: I'd do the same for starvation etc since "damage = level" stupidly penalises higher level characters.