help - 9 players

[diaglo]

increasing numbers for the monsters also increases CR.

so the abilities don't have to raise. just the numbers.

in your example a tougher encounter would mean 3 dragons of Zenith's power vs the whole party.

or cut off the members with barriers and attack say.. 4 or 5 party members with zenith.

 

[Thunderfoot]

thanx guys for your response
spiliting up the group will not work
only have time for one day a week plustwo of the players are sons of two others
wich can slow down the game with there antics but the fathers seem to keep them in line
i dont have a problem with running big groups or useing tacktics (i have all ready killed 4 characters)
ok lets narrow this down a little what would you do for a 9 person party 5-6 lvl party
vs Gotrrod the CR7 young red dragon in Zenith
looking at the progrestion of dragons the breath weapon plus sp. abilities gets to be TPK really fast but if i leave it alone to easy

Quite simple actually, make sure that the lair is properly trapped and "outfitted" with baddie retainers, wear down the group and deplete those all powerful healing/damage spells they use. Remember, if the party is invading the home of this dragon, he will no doubt not give them time rest, heal and research so they can just take hime out. Also, be very careful not to "pin" the dragon in a cave for the fight. Any dragon and a red especially would rather be able to fly, just out of reach of melee weapons, in order to use that breath weapon at maximum efficiency, tail slap to fullest effect and wing buffets to stun the opponents making them easier prey. NO DRAGON SHOULD BE EASY!! (I think I need to enroll in B.A.D.D)

 

[Sir Draconion]

well for the encounter in the mod you fight him out in the open hills
with him strafing his breath weapon of 6d10 every 1-4 rounds at 30 feet high for a 25' radius

 

[DonTadow]

thanx guys for your response
spiliting up the group will not work
only have time for one day a week plustwo of the players are sons of two others
wich can slow down the game with there antics but the fathers seem to keep them in line
i dont have a problem with running big groups or useing tacktics (i have all ready killed 4 characters)
ok lets narrow this down a little what would you do for a 9 person party 5-6 lvl party
vs Gotrrod the CR7 young red dragon in Zenith
looking at the progrestion of dragons the breath weapon plus sp. abilities gets to be TPK really fast but if i leave it alone to easy

I've been there and sometimes you can't have the usual 4 to 6 players. WHen I started my current campaign I had eight players and all my designed adventures and modules were for the 4 to 6 player range. I used more , smarter creatures. i also had stern rulings when it came to time. Characters only had a minute to make their decision and all the monsters went on the same initiatitve. I also had less frequent battles in lue of more difficult ones. Your battles are going to take 3o to 45 minutes mininium if you're using minis.