Help me make APG PFS Pregens?

[Sylrae]

Found a Problem Shisumo.

They worked great in my 1-shot today. However:
The Half-Orc Inquisitor of Asmodeus: While it doesn't say so in the APG, supposedly James Jacobs has said that only clerics qualify for subdomains.

I don't agree with that call, (being as they are effectively domains still I think anyone who can take domains can take them).

But if that IS the official call, then we can't do it PFS.

 

[Shisumo]

Found a Problem Shisumo.

They worked great in my 1-shot today. However:
The Half-Orc Inquisitor of Asmodeus: While it doesn't say so in the APG, supposedly James Jacobs has said that only clerics qualify for subdomains.

I don't agree with that call, (being as they are effectively domains still I think anyone who can take domains can take them).

But if that IS the official call, then we can't do it PFS.

Yeah, saw that online myself over the weekend. I will be watching for an official statement directly from a Paizo bigwig (they're all at GenCon or recovering from same, and thus far all reports have been second- or third-hand), but if needed, I will be changing them in an errata to be released soon. I think it's idiotic, and raises some serious weirdness for cleric/inquisitor multiclass characters, but if it's the rule, it's the rule. I have a couple other things I need to fix anyway...

 

[Sylrae]

I think it's idiotic as well, and even if it is the official ruling, I'll promply remove it from my home games, but it means we'll have to put up with it in PFS if thats the case.

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

I can see both sides on this one. All of the other divine casting classes got new Archetypes. The Cleric got the subdomains. If the other divine casting classes get subdomains as well, the Clerics really get short-changed.

Clerics are THE divine casting specialists. They make the study/worship of the gods and their areas of influence their primary mission in life. They have greater insight/control into these areas, so they get subdomains.

 

[Sylrae]

I can sortof see that. Paladin only got the antipaladin, and IMO new domains are not the same as new archetypes. YMMV.

Not to mention, the subdomains are basically just new or variant domains, and I can't find a reason to justify not giving them to anyone with domain access, beyond the fact that clerics didn't get anything that actually made sense to be unique to them in the APG.

Plus, for non-golarion games, many of those subdomains make more sense being their own domains. Some of them were pathfinder treatments of what WERE FR Domains IIRC.

It would have been nice if the wizard included a priest variant that casted divine cleric spells like a cleric but was mostly wizard like in other aspects, possibly with 3 domains and 2 domain slots per level, or 3 domains and the ability to put domain spells in regular slots.

a battle wizard/sorcerer variant would have been nice as well. as a cleric/ranger variant that used wizard spells and cast like a wizard with some kind of restrictions to stop it from being better than the regular wizard.