Help me spend my gold!!!

Tolen Mar

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Ok, so we decided to go Epic recently and we made up our characters. But we are a small group, so I created an NPC to join them. Now this NPC was originally a character from our Forgotten Realms 2E days, and a slight change to his backstory turned him into a planar traveller. (Just right for Union.)

By the way, I'm the DM.

Okay, so we have 20 levels to play with, and we have a Duelist/Gladiator and a Spellsword. Being multiclassed hurt the spellswords spellcasting ability (No 9th level spells yet for example). In order to make sure I wasnt planning a TPK on our first adventure, I took the record sheets, dug up a white dragon (The most recent dungeoncraft article said that a group of 2 characters can handle a fight with a EL of -2, or in this case 18), and played out the encounter. They got their clocks cleaned. So I made some adjustments. One of the adjustments was to add this NPC.

Now, as I mentioned before, this NPC used to be one of my player characters back around 3rd level. I used the new rules and recreated him. The problem is, I equipped him with items appropriate for him, but have a lot of money left to spend. Well, sort of...

You see, I used the info from the DMG to determine his starting money, fudged a little and spent too much (Hey, he is MY character in MY campaign). But thats him as an NPC. I want to be able to outfit him as a PC in case I get an opportunity to play him, instead of GM him.

According to the DMG, 20th level NPC's get 220,000 GP in equipment, and 20th level PC's get 760,000 GP in equipment. I spent 270,000 GP.

Okay, the character is an ogre, Toog, who has rededicated his life to Sune Firehair in the hopes that if he impresses her enough, she will make him handsome. He hates his looks, and knows that everyone is afraid of him due to his size and appearance. He is a 7th level barbarian, and a 5th level Brawler (from Dragon 295). According to the numbers in Dragon 293, he gets 8 levels of ogre.

His stats are: Str 23, Dex 13, Con 20, Int 7, Wis 12, and Cha 6. As you can see, he is terribly strong, but kinda slow on the uptake (what ogre isnt?) His skills are mainly physical kinds of things (climb, swim, and so forth), but he has 16 ranks in Intimidate (He is smart enough to know how to use his ugliness for him in a fight). For feats, he has

Improved Unarmed Strike
Alertness
Combat Reflexes
Intimidating Rage
Improved Critical (Mercurial Greatsword)
Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Mercurial Greatsword)

Everyone knows what a 7th level barbarian can do, but not everyone knows about the brawler. The brawler lets him improvise weapons. Plus he has crowd fighting +3, which lets him take a +3 to attack and damage if his is threatening at least 3 opponents. Then he has subdual damage reduction 5/-, and bludgeoning conversion, which changes bludgeoning damage to subdual damage, which is reduced by the reduction.

Still with me?

Now for the gear. Toog, as I said isn't overly bright, and doesn't care much about magic. To Toog, if it doesn't directly make him fight better, he is not interested. Considering his attitude towards his looks, you would think that Charisma enhancing magics would be of interest, but he beleives that those are just disguises. He owns a Ring of Evasion, and a Scabbard of Keen Edges for his sword. He carries an Iron soup ladle named "Spidermasher" (It came from an adventure long ago...). Now he has Banded Mail +5, Invulnerable (Which gives him damage reduction against all damage 5/+1, and a Large Wooden Shield +5, with Spell resistance 19 (Just because he doesn't like magic, doesn't mean others don't). Finally, his Mercurial Greatsword is +5, Keen. I haven't purchased standard gear (tents, blankets, and so forth) because it is hard to find items of his size, and he wouldn't care much for them anyway.

So, what do you think I should buy him if I get a chance to use him as a PC instead of an NPC? I considered things like Ki straps and gauntlets of Ogre Power (sic), but he wouldn't use them. He wouldn't be able to see a noticeable effect. After all, when you are an ogre barbarian, a few extra points of strength arent a big change...

On a side note, I thought of spending some gold to make spidermasher a +5, Spider Bane Ladle... Just not sure if an improvised weapon qualifies for enhancement bonuses. (Hmmm... a +5 soup ladle, guaranteed not to spill a drop!)
 

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Re: Re: Help me spend my gold!!!

Darkness said:
Uh-oh! I sense an "ECLs in Dragon #293 broken or not?" debate approaching... ;)

Well, now that someone has brought it up...I wondered why it went from 5 in the DMg to 8 in Dragon. I mean sure, he is stronger than most PC's but lower Intelligence and Charisma, plus he is a bigger target than anyone else. He also has no special abilities or powers to bump it up with...
 

ooo, I hate shopping

Well, sounds like he is big into protective items and damage reduction. There is an FR belt that gives people damage reduction 10/MW against piercing weapons. Don't know how much it costs. Boots are great to have, speed has very direct applications to combat. Rings adjust for size, and suck up the income, maybe regeneration or blinking.

Also I wonder how he might react to having companions who won't be affected by his beauty. Figurines of wonderous power, golems, or interactive illusions. Maybe his feelings of being an outsider push him to self sufficiency and he's picked up a Daern's Instant Fortress, Murlynd's spoon, and a decanter of endless water.

And I always like to buy theme or style items. Maybe he likes flames what with the sune connection and gets flaming stuff, or perhaps his improvised weapons theme makes him invest in robes of useful items.

Also, this character has to get the Mattock or Maul of the Titans. That improvised weapon proficiency makes it too perfect.
 

The armor should have Fortification. At high levels, criticals are really nasty. Fortification prevents the criticals.

I would give him that hand that allows someone to see invisible. Can't fight what you can't see.

He needs a missle weapon as well. A way to fly would be even better.

A backup weapon is always a good idea. Maybe just some spiked guantlets.

Although he might not notice a couple more points of Strength, he would definately notice a couple more points of Dex.

You rejected several items because they didn't fit the character. If you told us a bit more about the character, we might be able to suggest items that fit it.
 

You could make the sword better too. Add, say, flaming burst or speed on it. After all, if he's primarily a fighter, he's gonna need a big frickin' sword with much power.
 

If I may swipe a quote from PVP...

Spend it all on ale & whores!!!!!!

I mean if nothing else you could hold on to the whores. Imagine 1000's of cheep women being flung at your foes. I think it would make for a great attack plan. :D
 

Magic Rub said:
If I may swipe a quote from PVP...

Spend it all on ale & whores!!!!!!

I mean if nothing else you could hold on to the whores. Imagine 1000's of cheep women being flung at your foes. I think it would make for a great attack plan. :D

OY! Sorry, but I seriously doubt there are any whores who could handle a 9' 10" 535 lb ogre...(Hmmm...That sounds kinda bad doesn't it? ;))
 

Tolen Mar said:


OY! Sorry, but I seriously doubt there are any whores who could handle a 9' 10" 535 lb ogre...(Hmmm...That sounds kinda bad doesn't it? ;))
You should see some of the female characters & NPCs in my campaign.
 

well there are always three things i get when making a char:

*stat boost (belt of giant str +16- or whatever the ELH would allow/ you can aford)
*armor (+5 mithril chain shirt with whatever you can dump on it)- remember barbs need light armor to take adv of their speed
*weapon (+5 keen, vorpal mercurial greatsword) - I personally would go Scimitar with the high crit range.

Not to knock on your guy- but may i make a suggestion of taking a couple levels of fighter to get the weapon spec- it really helps. And don't you need weapon focus to get impr crit? Plus- the three extra feats would help you get whirlwind.

Imaging the power of an ogre with 35 Str, 10' reach, impr WWA (elh) and a vorpal scimitar. You crit on 18+. Add that to weapon Spec (+2) and brawler bonus (+3) you can lop heads like there was no tomorrow...
 

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