Help Me With My Frog Race Religion Please

[brellin]

I'm slowly working on a homebrew campain. And I'm using a the Grippli
( From Dragon #324 pg. 84)
If you are not familiar eith them it's saying enough that a tipcal grippli stands 2-1/2
feet tall and weighes aprox. 30 pounds although a very old grippli can stand and weighs
twice that much. And look like frogs that walk. They worsip a rainbow colored frog.

The way I'm doing it is like this. In the early days of creation before the gods "ascended" to the outer planes her and the other creature gods walkd around like normal creatures. ?dose that make sense?
And so far all I got are: Frog (head goddes)
Gold Spider (good)
Black Spider (bad)
Big Snake (bad)
Wasp (neutral)

I want to add at least 2 maybe 4 more. Can the people of EN WORLD help me?
In return I will post the finshed work for all to use.

 

[XCorvis]

The largemouth bass eats frogs and tadpoles, and so do other fish. So there's another baddie for you. The evil devouring fish god, ever hungry, eating the young of the frog people. Or something.

What do grippli eat? That could be a kind of harvest god. A little weird, but hey, they're frog people.

 

[Spatzimaus]

You know, you don't HAVE to make it frog-based just because they evolved from frogs in the distant past. It's not like we, as Humans, have a monkey-based religion, worshipping He Who Throws the Poop of Creation. Although, that'd be pretty darn cool...

All I'm saying is, you could just put some generic religion stuff in there.

 

[Sir Brennen]

As frogmen, grippli value water in an almost religious context, I'd imagine. So they might have a rain god or god of lakes and streams.

What are your other gods gods of? I mean, I could see the rainbow frog fulfilling either of these roles - the rainbow actually representing the meteorlogical phenomenon associated with rain. If not, a frigate bird might be the rain god, or a giant carp (plant-eating fish) might be the god of lakes.

Where do grippli lay their eggs? They may have a "nursery" god associated with fertility and protection of the young. A God of the Reeds (Dragonfly? Actual humanoid looking plant?) or maybe a cave god (albino cave salamander?)

One other thought - an apocalyptic deity, in the form of a giantic snapping turtle which sleeps in the deepest part of the Lake of All Worlds. The waking of this god will bring great disaster. For a high-level plot hook, many believe the grippli's Turtle God is based on appearances of the Tarrasque...

 

[paradox42]

Somewhere in the Creature Catalog is a thread discussing the Slaadi (you know, those Chaotic Neutral Outsiders from Limbo that look suspiciously like giant humanoid frogs). One of the Slaadi statted up in said thread is the Prismatic Slaad, a CR 30 Colossal beast. It's possible there's a tie between the "rainbow-colored" frog goddess of your Grippli, and these super-Slaadi. Likewise, it's probably likely the Grippli who are aware of Slaadi (particularly if you use the Slaad Lords like Ssendam and Ygorl) would worship them as harbingers of the gods, if not actual deities themselves.

 

[brellin]

The grippli are tribe like. And the "gods/goddes" are gonna have a more "forest spirts" theme to them. And XCorvis I had already decided to use the Bichir from the " Creature Catalog 3.5 Overhaul Project" thread on this site but thanks for the input. I like the idea of using birds but what kind?

 

[Machiavelli]

Think about how these people view their world. I don't mean what philosophical grippli come up with when they are actively trying to contemplate religion, I mean what the grippli people see around them. Ask yourself what desires they have, why they put effort into the things they do each day, what they need to survive, what their environment must provide them, and what they must wrest from their environment by labor.
Also think about how hostile their environment is to them, and how much of their survival is linked to unpredictable events. The more that "luck" plays into interfering with or aiding their motivations, the mosre likely they will be to have a strong belief in active, living gods.

Religions revolve around these basic concepts. In a "primative tribe" like the grippli, their religion will not have evolved very from from these core motivations, so give them some serious thought. Don't just throw together a variety of religious-tribal-esque niceties and call it done; make it as believable (if perhaps as bizarre) as any real-life set of naturalistic beliefs.

So far, though, you seem to be doing plenty of good thinking. I'm just trying to inspire a different perspective if I can.