Edit: I hope you aren't talking about the spells with a psionic THEME, because those aren't psionics. Any old spellcaster can learn them, psionic or no. They're just spells.
to quote myself from another Psion thread, I made a list of all the spells that seem to be doing an iconically psionic thing in response to someone.
I'm not overly concerned with role filling, but I want to narrow it down to what people want. So, I'm approaching this from a perspective of what do we already have, and what do we actually need to add.
For example, spell stealing is the unique 17th ability of the Arcane Trickster
[B said:
Spell Thief[/B]]
At 17th level, you gain the ability to magically steal the knowledge of how to cast a spell from another spellcaster.
Immediately after a creature casts a spell that targets you or includes you in its area of effect, you can use your reaction to force the creature to make a saving throw with its spellcasting ability modifier. The DC equals your spell save DC. On a failed save, you negate the spell’s effect against you, and you steal the knowledge of the spell if it is at least 1st level and of a level you can cast (it doesn’t need to be a wizard spell). For the next 8 hours, you know the spell and can cast it using your spell slots. The creature can’t cast that spell until the 8 hours have passed.
Once you use this feature, you can’t use it again until you finish a long rest.
So if you were to give that to a Psion, you would need to make sure it was a high level ability and consider how this effects the Arcane Trickster who previously was the only person capable of pulling off this feat.
The same with using Invisible Mage Hand as a minor Telekinesis. In fact, a lot of the Arcane Trickster abilities fit with what I could expect to see from a Psion
And, in that same vein, if I make this spell list based on the things you said and some of my own ideas, what do you think is missing from it? I know some of it is duplicated, I'm just grabbing from lists
Cantrip
Friends (Enchantment)
Message (Transmutation)
Minor Illusion (Illusion)
Vicious Mockery (Enchantment)
Guidance (Divination
Control Flames (Transmutation, X)
Mold Earth (Transmutation, X)
Shape Water (Transmutation, X)
1st
Bane (Enchantment)
Bless (Enchantment)
Cause Fear (Necromancy, X)
Catapult (Transmutation, X)
Charm Person (Enchantment)
Command (Enchantment)
Comprehend Languages (Divination, Ritual)
Dissonant Whispers (Enchantment)
Expeditious Retreat (Transmutation)
False Life (Necromancy)
Jump (Transmutation)
Longstrider (Transmutation)
Mage Armor (Abjuration)
Magic Missile (Evocation)
Heroism (Enchantment)
Sanctuary (Abjuration)
Shield (Abjuration)
Shield of Faith (Abjuration)
Sleep (Enchantment)
Tasha's Hideous Laughter (Enchantment)
Tenser’s Floating Disk (Conjuration, Ritual)
Unseen Servant (Conjuration, Ritual)
2nd
Aid (Abjuration)
Alter Self (Transmutation)
Augury (Divination, Ritual)
Blindness/Deafness (Necromancy)
Calm Emotions (Enchantment)
Crown of Madness (Enchantment)
Detect Thoughts (Divination)
Earthbind (Transmutation, X)
Enhance Ability (Transmutation)
Enlarge/Reduce (Transmutation)
Enthrall (Enchantment)
Hold Person (Enchantment)
Levitate (Transmutation)
Locate Object (Divination)
Mind Spike (Divination, X)
Mirror Image (Illusion)
Phantasmal Force (Illusion)
Pyrotechnics (Transmutation, X)
See Invisibility (Divination)
Shadow Blade (Illusion, X)
Suggestion (Enchantment)
Warding Wind (Evocation, X)
Zone of Truth (Enchantment)
3rd
Catnap (Enchantment)
Clairvoyance (Divination)
Enemies abound (Enchantment)
Fear (Illusion)
Fly (Transmutation)
Haste (Transmutation)
Hypnotic Pattern (Illusion)
Nondetection (Abjuration)
Protection from Energy (Abjuration)
Slow (Transmutation)
Sending (Evocation)
Tongues (Divination)
4th
Arcane Eye (Divination)
Charm Monster (Enchantment, X)
Compulsion (Enchantment)
Confusion (Enchantment)
Control Water (Transmutation)
Divination (Divination, Ritual)
Locate Creature (Divination)
Otiluke’s Resilient Sphere (Evocation)
Phantasmal Killer (Illusion)
Stone Shape (Transmutation)
Stoneskin (Abjuration)
Freedom of Movement (Abjuration)
5th
Animate Objects (Transmutation)
Awaken (Transmutation)
Control Winds (Transmutation, X)
Dominate Person (Enchantment)
Dream (Illusion)
Geas (Enchantment)
Hold Monster (Enchantment)
Immolation (Evocation, X)
Legend Lore (Divination)
Modify Memory (Enchantment)
Rary’s Telepathic Bond (Divination, Ritual)
Scrying (Divination)
Skill Empowerment (Transmutation)
Synaptic Static (Enchantment)
Telekinesis (Transmutation)
Wall of Force (Evocation)
7th
Forcecage (Evocation)
Power Word Pain (Enchantment, X)
Regenerate (Transmutation)
Reverse Gravity (Transmutation)
Whirlwind (Evocation, X)
8th
Control Weather (Transmutation)
Dominate Monster (Enchantment)
Earthquake (Evocation)
Feeblemind (Enchantment)
Glibness (Transmutation)
Illusory Dragon (Illusion, X)
Maddening Darkness (Evocation, X)
Maze (Conjuration)
Mind Blank (Abjuration)
Power Word Stun (Enchantment)
Telepathy (Evocation)
9th
Astral Projection (Necromancy)
Foresight (Divination)
Invulnerability (Abjuration, X)
Power Word Heal (Evocation)
Power Word Kill (Enchantment)
Psychic scream (Enchantment)
Time Stop (Transmutation)
Weird (Illusion)
Oh looky triggered snowflake.
There is nothing sexist or misogynistic about an adolescent power trip (i.e. high level, powerful characters played by adults) in a game. Grow up.
Max, I quoted it in an earlier response to you. It is in the new UA: Psionic Options Revisited page 6 of the PDF:
Psychic Sorcery. When you cast a spell, you can use your mind to form it, rather than relying on words, gestures, and materials. To do so, roll your Psionic Talent die. The spell then requires no verbal component, and if you rolled the level of the spell or higher, the spell doesn’t require somatic or material components either.
If you don't roll high enough the spell will require somatic and material components.
Edit: I hope you aren't talking about the spells with a psionic THEME, because those aren't psionics. Any old spellcaster can learn them, psionic or no. They're just spells.
Max, I quoted it in an earlier response to you. It is in the new UA: Psionic Options Revisited page 6 of the PDF:
Psychic Sorcery. When you cast a spell, you can use your mind to form it, rather than relying on words, gestures, and materials. To do so, roll your Psionic Talent die. The spell then requires no verbal component, and if you rolled the level of the spell or higher, the spell doesn’t require somatic or material components either.
If you don't roll high enough the spell will require somatic and material components.
Oh looky triggered snowflake.
There is nothing sexist or misogynistic about an adolescent power trip (i.e. high level, powerful characters played by adults) in a game. Grow up.
Edit: I hope you aren't talking about the spells with a psionic THEME, because those aren't psionics. Any old spellcaster can learn them, psionic or no. They're just spells.
A good chunk of those appear to already be in the game. Once you've worked out which of the others are necessary, we should have an idea of the things that need to be added.
Oh looky triggered snowflake.
There is nothing sexist or misogynistic about an adolescent power trip (i.e. high level, powerful characters played by adults) in a game. Grow up.
Rather than nitpicking about the details, what niche do we want to fill with the base class?
The Mystic is dead precisely because he could do too much stuff at once. While Psionics cover a whole lot of areas, what would the baseclass do?
1. Full Caster without components.
2. ???
Speaking from a gameplay and mechanical perspective what would be desirable for the absolute bare bones chassis before we even start thinking about separate disciplines?
Expanding on that, what are the limits? What are things a Mystic should NOT be able to do to let other Full Casters have their place to shine?
I'd personally suggest to start tackling ressource management first. Even though the Psionic dice look random at a first glance, they're actually pretty damn stable as long as you have a size 3 die and a 1/day refresh on demand. I like the idea that even a level 5 Psion could keep slinging the equivalent of 1st level spells basically at will as long as he keeps rolling. Looking at progression I'm looking at Warlocks. Replace short rest Spellslots with Psionic dice. What you can use them for increases in power as you level and caps out at 5th level Spellslots in term of powerlevel.
Your more powerful abilities match Full Caster Spellslot level and power, but automatically reduce die size, potentially even by multiple sizes depending on how much you "overchannel" compared to your "at will" spellslot level.
That would be an entirely new system, but built on the new Psionic Dice mechanic. And familiar enough to integrate in 5E since it's using Spellslots like any other current caster.
Add in an automatic increase of your Psionic Die size on a Short Rest for good measure and make sure you can still use Cantrip level Powers if you are tapped (without getting to roll the Psionic Dice to increase or deplete it).
