Heroes of the Elemental Chaos Excerpts

[Dice4Hire]

A nice PP. Has some nice built-in RP potential also.

Though how the genie gets stuck back in the bottle day after day must annoy the living ..... out of the genie.

 

[Neonchameleon]

I can´t see the problem at all...
we have too many classes. Wizard is the most appropriate class for the shair. Arcane power source is the appropriate power source. The shair familars give the shair interesting controllery features.
Warlocks would not fit. Period. Making him a sorcerer, maybe. But I don´t like the sorcerer as a class...

From Wikipedia:

The Sha' ir is a character class originally introduced in the Al-Qadim campaign setting for Dungeons and Dragons 2nd Edition. Based on Arabian folklore, the sha' ir is a mysterious and powerful wizard that gains their power from genies, and often acts as an ambassador on behalf of mortals to geniekind. Sha' irs are both feared and respected for this role.
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Sha' irs cast spells by requesting that their gen go find them.
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Sha' irs possess the training and tact to deal with these powerful creatures, either through diplomacy, flattery (of which genies of all types can't get enough of), or coercion.
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Often, a sha' ir will seek to enter into a pact with a genie. Common lengths include 1001 days of servitude, or a dozen and one months. The finer details are worked out between the sha' ir and genie in question, but often include a laundry list of conditions.
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In an Arabian-flavored setting, a sha' ir will often take the place of a wizard or sorcerer, and act as a party's "faceman." Sha' irs are skilled in diplomacy and require a high charisma score, making them ideal for the job.

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I'm not seeing a Wizard there. I'm seeing a charisma-based genie pact Warlock - preferably providing an alternative to the Binder as a warlock controller; things like the ability to go diving for spells replacing the near-useless pact boon. Why do you think Warlocks wouldn't fit?

 

[Ryujin]

Yup, agreed. Gaining power through agreements with otherworldly powers is the Warlock's shtick.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

From Wikipedia:

The Sha' ir is a character class originally introduced in the Al-Qadim campaign setting for Dungeons and Dragons 2nd Edition. Based on Arabian folklore, the sha' ir is a mysterious and powerful wizard that gains their power from genies, and often acts as an ambassador on behalf of mortals to geniekind. Sha' irs are both feared and respected for this role.
...
Sha' irs cast spells by requesting that their gen go find them.
...
Sha' irs possess the training and tact to deal with these powerful creatures, either through diplomacy, flattery (of which genies of all types can't get enough of), or coercion.
...
Often, a sha' ir will seek to enter into a pact with a genie. Common lengths include 1001 days of servitude, or a dozen and one months. The finer details are worked out between the sha' ir and genie in question, but often include a laundry list of conditions.
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In an Arabian-flavored setting, a sha' ir will often take the place of a wizard or sorcerer, and act as a party's "faceman." Sha' irs are skilled in diplomacy and require a high charisma score, making them ideal for the job.

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I'm not seeing a Wizard there. I'm seeing a charisma-based genie pact Warlock - preferably providing an alternative to the Binder as a warlock controller; things like the ability to go diving for spells replacing the near-useless pact boon. Why do you think Warlocks wouldn't fit?

Yeah, now I do see the problem

A charisma/int Warlock would not have been a bad choice, except that the powers of the class just don´t fit.
Maybe an int/cha wizard would have been best.
The problem of 4e is, that all warlocks have access to the same warlock spells and are prohibited from using wizard spells. And cursing does not fit the Genie Warlock.
Maybe a binder variant... but ganing boons through killing also seems wrong...

 

[Ryujin]

Yeah, now I do see the problem

A charisma/int Warlock would not have been a bad choice, except that the powers of the class just don´t fit.
Maybe an int/cha wizard would have been best.
The problem of 4e is, that all warlocks have access to the same warlock spells and are prohibited from using wizard spells. And cursing does not fit the Genie Warlock.
Maybe a binder variant... but ganing boons through killing also seems wrong...

But it could easily be argued that it could fit a Feylock style Striker/Controller with a fixed damage bonus, instead of 'curse' (though curse certainly fits a proto-Arabic flavour anyway), with their own spell list giving bonuses for the specific Pact, as other Pacts get.

 

[Incenjucar]

A nice PP. Has some nice built-in RP potential also.

Though how the genie gets stuck back in the bottle day after day must annoy the living ..... out of the genie.

Iiiiitty bitty living space...


Worth noting that someone at CharOp has the book:

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