Heroes Season 1(#10)---11/27/06-'Six Months Ago'

[GlassEye]

My money is on Isaak dying soon. The character's been around since the first episode, yet hasn't really developed. A character struggling with a drug addiction has a lot of dramatic potential, but he's been relegated to a supporting cast slot. Now that the show's gaining momentum and the viewer is getting up to speed, the value of ominous foreshadowing is getting played out.

Yes, and it would be very easy for Sylar to take him out as he escapes Bennet's secret hideaway. That would be a nasty development.

 

[mmu1]

Yes, and it would be very easy for Sylar to take him out as he escapes Bennet's secret hideaway. That would be a nasty development.

Depending on how things unfold in the next episode with radioactive guy, he might very well be in position to end up as a likely victim, too... After all, if Sylar were to absorb his power, he's no longer necessary to the plot, but Bennet and HG would have to catch him first, and stick him into their little super-villain prison, so he'd be around when Sylar escaped.

 

[Seonaid]

He might simply need to study it, and understand it. "So that's how he can move objects without touching them. Now I know how to do it too."

This has been mentioned a couple of times in different levels of detail, but this is the first one (so I'm quoting it, as opposed to the others). I think this, or something quite similar, is what's going on.

He's obviously looney, do you think he's killing heroes to take their powers . . . or for some other reason? He mentions a "biological imperative" when he kills Brian, his first hero.

I seem to recall this guy named Hitler . . . and his program of systematically killing the "imperfect" people. Again, this has been mentioned a few times, but I think that it's possible (and highly attractive) for Sylar to be doing it out of misguided good motives.

Oh, and is everybody reading the online comic books on nbc.com?

Naw, I don't read 'em. I kind of like having "just" the TV version of the show. Call me weird, but I kind of feel like it's "cheating" or making my enjoyment of the show "tainted" to get all the extras. I even kind of feel bad reading these threads.

Matt's backstory told us that he's not the flawed character who failed the detective exam serveral times like we thought. Nope, he has a disease, so it's not his fault.

I *love* the fact that Matt has dyslexia. I really have hopes for this little point of this storyline. I just hope they treat it well.

I do some genetic analysis at work, so I try not to think too much about the nature of the "genetics" work Suresh has been doing - it's nonsensical TV science, but I don't intend to let it ruin an otherwise great show for me.

In general, I, too, am willing to let things go to enjoy a show/movie/what-have-you, but the "mutations' purpose is to kill off some members of the species" line really grated on me. I mean, the actuality isn't hard to understand or say quickly, so why go for that line? It just makes more people think the wrong thing . . .

Peter will have no experience with his powers that he gains from Sylar. It is as if you went to fight Superman and 5 seconds before the fight you suddenly have his abilities. He's going to kick your butt because he knows how to use them.

Not to sound like I'm whining, but I said this already!

And is he really evil? Ruthless and Machiavellian, yes. He kidnaps, manipulates and lies, but does he believe that he's acting for the greater good?

Yes! That's one of the (few) redeeming qualities of this show--so many of its characters are acting like real people, with layered motives! That's why I'm so disappointed when things turn out to be simple and predictable. I know that some people have said they think the show is complicated enough, but I say--make it more complicated! I loved the idea of Peter being Sylar. Things like that would push this show into the "must-watch" category for me. As it is (and I've said this before), I'm giving it to the end of the season and don't really expect to pick it up again next year.

Eden: I just didn't like the Bene Gesserit (sp?) Voice.

Haha, nice call! I didn't think that when I was watching, but I'm totally going to call it that.

His final scene, "Let's tell all those people they are special"... he could be trying to trick Surresh.

I think/hope that this isn't the case! It would make a much better villain if he thought he was right and doing good, instead of just eeevil.

Could it be that Sylar sees Brian going against nature's order and then kills him(see #1) or could it be he seems himself as something different now, that he was living the wrong "imperative" all along(as he hoped) and that his true mission is to 'fix' people, which is just a twisted way of saying kill them.

Exactly!

[T]he heroes' brains are broken. Charlie knew about how hers was broken, about her blood clot. Gabriel/Sylar was able to detect some kind of damage in scareTK's brain. The mutation that allows for the powers is also effectively brain damage.

I like it! And, compared to "normals," it probably is brain damage.

Remember how the doctor said that the supe gene is an abnormality, something that isn't normal.

Yep, that's what mutations are (at least in the beginning, before they're passed on) . . .

Can it be that the word "hero" is just a convenient catch-all phrase for any of the recurring characters, in particular the "powered" ones?

Argh, yes, exactly! Thank you for saying this for me.

I was struck by how much Sylar looked like Clark Kent, as played by Brandon Roth.

I agree! I kept thinking that every time I saw him. "Hey, that's Superman!" Hehee.

 

[RangerWickett]

I seem to recall this guy named Hitler . . . and his program of systematically killing the "imperfect" people. Again, this has been mentioned a few times, but I think that it's possible (and highly attractive) for Sylar to be doing it out of misguided good motives.

I hearby invoke Internet Bylaw 12 - "Any invocation of Hitler to support or denounce a line of argument shall result in the immediate forfeiture of the argument and closure of the line of discussion."

Trust me, we have these bylaws for a reason. It's for the best.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

I hearby invoke Internet Bylaw 12...

That totally makes you Stalin. Or possibly Pol Pot.

I was wrong in my theory about Sylar, I thought he was killing the abby-normal types for some misguided "protect humanity" type of reason. Now it seems he's on some mad mission to become all-powerful or perfect or some such.

For the record, I have dyslexia and it is not so much a disease as a constant pain in my arse. It is a handicap. And its role in hobbling Matt's efforts are, to me at least, utterly believable.

But it is off set by being left handed, which means I am the next step up in evolution. Gonna leave all you skanky might-as-well-be Ne-and-er-thals behind me.

Also, I'm not impressed with Mr. Bennet ability to execute one of his plans.

 

[John Crichton]

I hearby invoke Internet Bylaw 12 - "Any invocation of Hitler to support or denounce a line of argument shall result in the immediate forfeiture of the argument and closure of the line of discussion."

Trust me, we have these bylaws for a reason. It's for the best.

Aw, c'mon - we were all thinkin' it when Gabriel/Sylar was going on and on about wanting to be more early on. God complex at work.

 

[Seonaid]

t seems he's on some mad mission to become all-powerful or perfect or some such.

Wait, what makes you think that? I still want to believe!

 

[Ed_Laprade]

I hearby invoke Internet Bylaw 12 - "Any invocation of Hitler to support or denounce a line of argument shall result in the immediate forfeiture of the argument and closure of the line of discussion."

Trust me, we have these bylaws for a reason. It's for the best.

Besides, it was Himmler that was all gung ho about exterminating them. Adolf just wanted to get rid of them. But no one else wanted them either!

 

[bodhi]

That totally makes you Stalin. Or possibly Pol Pot.

I was just reading the Favorite Pie thread, so naturally I must now wonder aloud what's in a Pol Pot Pie.

Now it seems he's on some mad mission to become all-powerful or perfect or some such.

I'd be a little disappointed, but okay with Sylar being on a quest to become the perfect being. It's a little boring, but it works well enough at this point, I think.

Hrm. Hiro says that if he's afraid to use his powers, he doesn't deserve them. Brian Davis (I think. The teek on the post-it.) says he's afraid of it, who he might hurt with it, and doesn't want the power. And Sylar's always wanted to be different, to be special. So clearly, Brian doesn't deserve the power, and Sylar does. Maybe when Sylar calls him broken, he doesn't mean that Brian has a power, he means that Brian lacks the will to use the power he's been given. So he fixes it by transferring the power into a willing vessel, himself.

So yeah, "I hunger for more power" works well enough for me. Although I think it'd be more interesting if somewhere along the way, Sylar found out the world was going to end, and he was the only one who could save it, because he could control multiple powers at once. And then, of course, what if he's right?