Heroes Season 1(#21)---5/07/07-'The Hard Part'

[Vocenoctum]

I don't think he restarted time. Hiro lost concentration. We know that for hiro (and peter) to stop time they have to concentrate. Hiro lost it becuse of his inability to kill a human being.

Powers do work on Sylar. He couldn't see peter when he was invisible and hiro was able to stop time and get away from him. In both instances if sylar was immune to powers he wouldn't have been stopped and would have seen through Peter's Invisibility.

I was thinking that it ended when he touched Sylar, or that Hiro lost will at that point. If Sylar was immune to the power, I don't think the rest of the room would have unfrozen, but maybe he'd lose concentration then.

As for the knife, even the mom couldn't do that. Sylar used his telekinesis as a reflex to stab her in the heart. It makes no sense for the mom to commit suicide. Sylar seems to be loosing control, so this makes perfect sense that he would react with a power when threatened.

I chalked it up to melodrama and bad cameras/ setup. It was (to me) supposed to be an "end" to the "way out" for Sylar, and I don't think he killed her, or she killed herself.

The main reason peter or sylar won't go back in time is because it would create paradoxes and conondrums. The only reason future hiro would have risked that, was because nothing could have been worse than the future. But look at what future hiro did before he did this. He spent probably months mapping out where exactly in the timeline he could do something and not screw it up.

We don't actually know if there is paradox in HeroesVerse, we don't know how time travel works much at all. Hiro's theories are all... well, they're all based on Star Trek and comic books!

We don't know if he learned anything later on.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Does the bomb actually go off? I think yes. I think it ends up not being any of the three possibilities (Peter, Sylar, or Ted), but is actually a forth, even more subversive possibility: an actual nuclear bomb smuggled in by Linderman at al.

I think Peter still explodes, but just before he does so, Hiro shouts "hey, can't you fly?" and Peter flies up and out of destructive range.

Thus, Hiro saves NY.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Does anyone else think that Pa Petrelli was originally supposed to be the rallying president in Linderman's plans and that this is why he committed suicide? It seems reasonable.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Also, I guess it is obvious that Molly Walker is the "Walker System" that Bennett brought Parkman and Ted to NYC to destroy, the one that "they don't need isotopes, they just find you". Of course, when that happens, Parkman will recognise her from his first telepathy case.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

What I'm getting tired of is the reshooting of past scenes. It's happened a few times where the dialogue was slightly different than the scene they were recapping.

This last episode, during the recap, Thompson gives Suresh a card and blah blah blah, but I don't remember that scene ever happening. The recap scenes with Petrelli/Nathan and Claire/Nathan also seemed different.

Maybe someone is modifying time!

I don't think they are reshooting scenes. More likely they are scavenging off the cutting room floor and pulling from alternate original takes (Most scenes are probably shot at least twice if not more to get all the camera angles for editing to choose from).

 

[Kaodi]

Just thinking back to the future episode, with Peter using the power of fire... I wonder if he got that during the distant past, or during the future. Does Claire's Mom possibly make another appearance in the last two episodes?

 

[Chaldfont]

How cool would it be if that star the girl gave to Suresh actually does work?

 

[Taelorn76]

Just thinking back to the future episode, with Peter using the power of fire... I wonder if he got that during the distant past, or during the future. Does Claire's Mom possibly make another appearance in the last two episodes?

I think he was using Ted Nuke power not the firestarter

 

[Arnwyn]

I think some of the heroes need to die soon though, and ideally it shouldn't be some minor characters that don't resonate with the fanbase. Kick everyone in the guts and have people turning off the tv going "Wow, I didn't see that coming."

I definitely understand this viewpoint, but they have to be very very careful. It's certainly been documented that a material portion of the audience simply doesn't return when such story events occur.

 

[James Heard]

I definitely understand this viewpoint, but they have to be very very careful. It's certainly been documented that a material portion of the audience simply doesn't return when such story events occur.

Perhaps, but it generates its own press and given that Heroes already has time travel you can almost kill characters off and still have them make guest appearances.

If Ando dies, Hiro could occasionally have scenes where he goes into the past to chat with Ando...eventually culminating in the knowledge that Ando could be made to be even more heroic retroactively, because it would be clear he knew ahead of time and made a decision.

If Peter dies, then the only "proper" way to have him recurrent IMO would be to take Nathan over the edge and have Peter show up as Nathan's conscience. Nathan's already deeply flawed, but if you twisted his flaws to give himself an argument to become the sort of person he obviously wishes he had the character to be?

If Hiro dies, then maybe paradox-future Hiro is still around. Not as heroic, more capable, afraid to use his powers to travel in time at all because the chain of history wants to pull him back into his proper place. This could be even more interesting because Nathan-now would still regard Hiro as the strange naive guy he connected with in the Diner, and that would put Nathan in a place to be the optimistic, friendly guy for once while someone else sulks and plots around him.

Or they could just suck it up and try to make it so awesome that anyone who was put off by the plot developing contrary to the liveliness of the characters made their way back because of the massive peer pressure from all the new viewers.