Heroes Season 1(#22)---5/14/07-'Landslide'

[F5]

Nathan first flew to escape the wreck that crippled his wife, so he had powers before (albeit moments before) she needed to be healed.

So, his power could have been a survival reflex to leave the wreck, hence why he developed flying.

It still fits in with the "personality shapes your powers" theory. Why didn't Nathan develop a power that could save his wife? Because he's inherently selfish. He developed a power that could save himself. He doesn't LIKE that about hinself, and he's trying to make himself better, but that's how it is.

Do her powers work like that? I mean, when the object is not in contact with her and is being closely examined by another person.

When Micah was making his escape attempt, she illusion-ized the hallway, so it looked like he kept going into the same room over and over. She defintely has the ability to produce environmental illusions, as well as personal ones.

I wonder if she could create the illusion of, say, an atomic bomb going off in the middle of downtown manhattan?

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

(S)he also said, "I can make you see anything I want."

That I interesting – that Candice might be a “he.” That said, I wonder how close the illusion powers will hold up to close scrutiny. I mean, if someone who is familiar with the real Silver Surfer No. 1 looked at the one Candice provided Mica, could they tell the difference?

It probably depends on the actual nature of the power. It is a psionic “You Will Believe This” type of thing, or an external illusion? If it is an external illusion, then it is less likely to hold up to close scrutiny.

Are others looking at Ando being Hiro's heart that he must be willing to give up to save the World?

That was my interpretation of it – that he needed to sacrifice Ando, which was also sacrificing his innocence and his heart, so as to become a better killer and warrior in the future.

Kaito is, apparently, a master of the sword, like Takezo Kensei.

I am somewhat ambivalent about the possibility of an immortal character… who runs around, fighting battles with a katana against other powered individuals. My own interpretation of the reflection was he was simply reminiscing about his own youth, running around with Pre-Evil Linderman and Pre-Dead Patrelli.

However, if the alleged immortality is less like that of the Highlander and more like that of Doro in the novel Wild Seed (the most tragic and interesting possibility) or Dana in the novel Kindred (which would be keeping with Hiro’s own powers actually) it could work for the story and not be hooky.

 

[Randolpho]

That was my interpretation of it – that he needed to sacrifice Ando, which was also sacrificing his innocence and his heart, so as to become a better killer and warrior in the future.

But Hiro doesn't *like* what he becomes in the future. Ando told him (IIRC) that his death affected future Hiro. Hiro wants to keep Ando from dying.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

But Hiro doesn't *like* what he becomes in the future.

What children want to be is separate from what their parents want them to be.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

What children want to be is separate from what their parents want them to be.

And yet parents are not always right (shh, don't let my kids hear me say that!)

 

[WayneLigon]

That I interesting – that Candice might be a “he.” That said, I wonder how close the illusion powers will hold up to close scrutiny. I mean, if someone who is familiar with the real Silver Surfer No. 1 looked at the one Candice provided Mica, could they tell the difference?

Bennet didn't notice his own wife had been replaced, but then he's probably long since been at that stage of marriage where he's so comfortable around her that he doesn't scrutinize. Given his job, though, I'd think he'd see through an inconsistancy very quickly. Could go either way.

It probably depends on the actual nature of the power. It is a psionic “You Will Believe This” type of thing, or an external illusion? If it is an external illusion, then it is less likely to hold up to close scrutiny.

Good question. If it was a purely visual thing, then maybe Micah would not be able to hold a comic. But it's it's purely psionic, then it might not work through cameras; since Sylar was able to appear as Nathan, it must work through cameras and other mediums. Could be both.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

And yet parents are not always right (shh, don't let my kids hear me say that!)

I didn't say they were. I was simply making a point about what lesson Evil Sulu was trying to impart. The whole "kill 4-million or so people" as a good thing is morally reprehensible in addition to being strategically unsound. But letting Ando die does fall in line with that philosophy. And I'm totally telling your kids you said that.

Bennet didn't notice his own wife had been replaced...

They also had less than five minutes together and, at the risk of being crass, they did not go to bed.

 

[noretoc]

I also think that need makes the powers. Mohinder talks about an evolutionary jump, and things evolve out of need. DL was in prison, and needed to get out. Nikki needed to be strong. Micah needed to be smart and do something that would earn money. Nathan needed to fly to get out of there. Peter needed to be everything for everyone. I may be wrong, but wasn't Hiro always late. He needed a way to slow down time. Claire needed to survive the fire. Parkman maybe needed a way to know how to pass the test. Just my opinion though. For heroes, that evolutionary jumps happens fast!

 

[Randolpho]

I didn't say they were. I was simply making a point about what lesson Evil Sulu was trying to impart. The whole "kill 4-million or so people" as a good thing is morally reprehensible in addition to being strategically unsound. But letting Ando die does fall in line with that philosophy. And I'm totally telling your kids you said that.

But I don't get the feeling that that's who Evil Sulu really is. Although his character (like just about every other character) turned around from his earlier portrayal, I got the feeling from this episode that he honestly felt that the ends did not justify the means, and that sacrificing Ando, even if it makes Hiro bad-ass, was *not* a Good Thing(tm).

 

[RigaMortus2]

It works, kind of, but I would guess that it actually goes in the other direction and that the personality is a reflection of the power, even before it manifests. Claire doesn't quite make sense otherwise,

Well, the writers mentioned that Claire is the stereotypical teenager, who thinks they are invincible. In Claire's case, it is literally true.