Heroes Season 1(#22)---5/14/07-'Landslide'

[Victim]

D.L. should have phased both himself and Nikki. Maybe he was just trying to save her, didn't have time to think?
I just had a thought as to why Nikki can't use the strength powers unless her sister takes over. Their father killed her, not Jessica, and nobody ever knew it, but Nikki jumped into Jessica, and can't jump out because she would die? She needs her own body to jump back into before she can take over any others. Jessica's power is the strength/durability schtick, so they only come out when Jessica is ascendant.
Also, I got the impression, too, that Hiro's dad was immortal.

Niki snaps the prison guard's stick when he's taking her away from DL on his visit (I can't remember if Micah was there). She seems to have the super strength, but doesn't really know about it.

 

[DonTadow]

Conjecture, obviously, but my take on the whole thing is that whatever power might be there is there, and that the person's personality and/or life events cause a given power or set of powers to cement into them.
My "proofs" are, Micah is a child of the new millennium, has machines all around him, and is constantly being praised for how smart he is. Peter's chosen profession is Hospice Nurse, he has a way of taking in what others are feeling and giving back what they need, his genes expressed as a power sponge. Nathan would never have expressed if he hadn't needed to fly, that night on the road, when he needed to save himself. Hiro is a sci-fi, Star Trek, Star Wars junkie, very intelligent, but a dreamer, and grew up hearing about "the space-time continuum". Nikki needed to be strong, so she was, while Jessica needed to get out of her body---rape victims sometimes become MPD sufferers due to compartmentalizing of this sort---into someplace safe. Claire kept getting into scrapes---this is complete conjecture, except for the hand through the glass case scene---and hurting herself, and her body reacted. I can't explain Parkman, except to say that he is the suspicious sort, and maybe his wanting to be a detective but he couldn't read had something to do with it. Sylar wanted to be special, and found the means to do so, even though up to then he'd only been a watchmaker, because he wanted to please both his parents. I have no explanation about Ted, as to why he became Radioactive Man. D.L. either needed to get into someplace, or out of it, and did so. That's all I got.

I like this theory and it makes absolute sense.

Claire's mom is a chain smoker, what better than to produce your own light.

The illusion woman has self esteem issues, what better way to manifest them than to change the way things look.

 

[papastebu]

Niki snaps the prison guard's stick when he's taking her away from DL on his visit (I can't remember if Micah was there). She seems to have the super strength, but doesn't really know about it.

So you think I'm off base, and Jessica is the jumper?
Another idea is that Jessica really is a result of Nikki's trauma via her father. A second personality that takes on the form of Jessica, her sister who always seemed like the strong one, to take over when the need arises. This doesn't explain the power symbol, though.

 

[wingsandsword]

I really like the theory that the form the Heroes powers take reflects their personality and desires.

Linderman, from how he explained himself to Nathan, apparently wanted to heal the world when he was young, so he had powers of Healing.

Eden wanted everybody to do what she wanted.

As for Ted, maybe he had an explosive temper?

The Haitian, maybe he wanted everybody to forget about him? He is silent by choice and tries to be unobtrusive.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

Conjecture, obviously, but my take on the whole thing is that whatever power might be there is there, and that the person's personality and/or life events cause a given power or set of powers to cement into them.
My "proofs" are, Micah is a child of the new millennium, has machines all around him, and is constantly being praised for how smart he is. Peter's chosen profession is Hospice Nurse, he has a way of taking in what others are feeling and giving back what they need, his genes expressed as a power sponge. Nathan would never have expressed if he hadn't needed to fly, that night on the road, when he needed to save himself. Hiro is a sci-fi, Star Trek, Star Wars junkie, very intelligent, but a dreamer, and grew up hearing about "the space-time continuum". Nikki needed to be strong, so she was, while Jessica needed to get out of her body---rape victims sometimes become MPD sufferers due to compartmentalizing of this sort---into someplace safe. Claire kept getting into scrapes---this is complete conjecture, except for the hand through the glass case scene---and hurting herself, and her body reacted. I can't explain Parkman, except to say that he is the suspicious sort, and maybe his wanting to be a detective but he couldn't read had something to do with it. Sylar wanted to be special, and found the means to do so, even though up to then he'd only been a watchmaker, because he wanted to please both his parents. I have no explanation about Ted, as to why he became Radioactive Man. D.L. either needed to get into someplace, or out of it, and did so. That's all I got.

It works, kind of, but I would guess that it actually goes in the other direction and that the personality is a reflection of the power, even before it manifests. Claire doesn't quite make sense otherwise, and I don't buy Nathan, either. His power was manifesting itself when Peter was trying to fly way back at the beginning of the season - Peter was siphoning some of it. If it were need/desire based, I would think Nathan would have expressed healing powers ala Linderman to heal his wife.

Or more likely than any of that is that it is easier for the writers to make the characters archetypes and have their personalities make sense with their powers rather than it being something they actively thought out.

 

[wingsandsword]

I would think Nathan would have expressed healing powers ala Linderman to heal his wife.

Nathan first flew to escape the wreck that crippled his wife, so he had powers before (albeit moments before) she needed to be healed.

So, his power could have been a survival reflex to leave the wreck, hence why he developed flying.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Conjecture, obviously, but my take on the whole thing is that whatever power might be there is there, and that the person's personality and/or life events cause a given power or set of powers to cement into them.

It fits well. Myself, I think the powers and personality are tied, but not automatically in a "he needed this power" style, but some other way.

Like I said, it reminds me of Hunter: The Reckoning, and I can see a "hand" guiding the Heroes in some ways. Nikki got Strength because she would need it, Jessica (maybe) got Mirror Jump Soul Share because she would need it. Isaac got Prophetic Powers because that was his path.

 

[Vocenoctum]

D.L. should have phased both himself and Nikki. Maybe he was just trying to save her, didn't have time to think?

I enjoy Heroes, it's a great show and a lot of fun. It has many plot holes and the plot devices are so transparent sometimes that if I pay too much attention to the show I enjoy it less.

DL needed to sacrifice himself, so he did, I think. If he was smart he'd have phased through the floor with her as soon as they found out where Micah was, and went for vengeance later. Or any number of other options. Killing Linderman before he finished the offer to Jessica for instance.

I like to debate some of the more fun aspects, but it's like the Ted Didn't Explode thing. To me it's obvious that they wanted him to scream before dying, and they don't feel they need to justify it much. I DO think this will hurt the show in later seasons if they get much worse with it, but right now it's still new and fun.

Also, I got the impression, too, that Hiro's dad was immortal.

I found the training so silly that I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention. Magic Osmosis Sword Training is fine with me, for learning to use a sword.

He's STILL not dueling Sylar with swords though, so the training is STILL silly to me.

For the same reason, the Japanese subtitled with English was great at first, but doesn't lend itself to Distracted Watching. I also think it hilarious that India doesn't get subtitles, but instead everyone there speaks British accented.
(Granted, I've never been to India, maybe they all speak like that in their crowded markets.)

 

[Fast Learner]

I also think it hilarious that India doesn't get subtitles, but instead everyone there speaks British accented.
(Granted, I've never been to India, maybe they all speak like that in their crowded markets.)

Well, lots of folks in India do speak British-accented English (though it's more Indian-accented, which sounds largely British), and English is the language business and government work is done in when folks aren't speaking Hindi, but no, it's unlikely that the folks in most crowded markets would be all speaking English.

Interestingly, the actor who plays Mohinder is US born and raised, and his normal accent is pretty generic American.

 

[papastebu]

Well, lots of folks in India do speak British-accented English (though it's more Indian-accented, which sounds largely British), and English is the language business and government work is done in when folks aren't speaking Hindi, but no, it's unlikely that the folks in most crowded markets would be all speaking English.

Interestingly, the actor who plays Mohinder is US born and raised, and his normal accent is pretty generic American.

Japanime always has subtitles. Of course, by that logic, every scene where Mohinder is talking to one of his countrymen should involve a snazzy song and dance number, a la Bollywood.
To be totally honest, though, I never noticed this until now. I guess I'm just so used to hearing Indians speak English in a semi-British accent that it never occurred to me to question that.