Heroes Season 1(#22)---5/14/07-'Landslide'

[Dire Bare]

Ted's death was just bad. Sure, he blows up a van to escape, but he won't blow up stuff to save his life. Right, he was just THAT disoriented.

Point 1: Ted didn't mean to blow up the van to escape the feds, he lost control of his powers. He learns to control them AFTER he escapes the feds.

Point 2: Ted IS disoriented! Dude, after a car crash like that, Ted is lucky (or rather, unlucky) to still be conscious.

Point 3: Ted is seriously hurt, scared and then Sylar starts cutting into him . . . but there is a part of Ted that just wants to die to atone for the people he's killed (especially his wife) and the people he might kill if he explodes like Peter told him he might.

Point 4: You try rationally thinking, "Hey, that guy's taking my head off (and it REALLY hurts), I should shoot him with my radioactive power without exploding and endangering New York!" . . . even if you haven't just been in an incredibly nasty car wreck.

Point 5: Sylar is awful quick with his head laser. He's had lots of practice and he's learned the hard way he has to make it good and quick so his victim DOESN'T use their powers against him . . . like Peter did!

Final Point: Ted had to die to move the plot forward. We all knew it was going to happen.

Having said all that, I too was sad to see Ted go (I liked the character) and had hoped he'd go down kicking rather than just screaming. Oh well, to see how efficiently and coldly Sylar pulled that all off was kinda cool in its own right.

 

[Vocenoctum]

1) Hiro does not stab Sylar . . . We already know that Sylar is not the bomb, Peter is! In the "future" episode, Future Hiro's warnings to Peter prevent Sylar from getting Claire's powers, but he obviously was still around to take them later.

Spoiler

And Quinto (the actor behind Sylar) is already signed for next season!

(although taking that into account is kinda cheating)

I know Steel Wind posted it before, and for lots the cat was prematurely let out of the bag, but I really don't know why people keep posting the season 2 spoiler about. There are still folks that haven't seen it here or there.

2) No hero we see in the "future" episode dies . . . at least not until after the "crisis point" when the day is saved by Hiro and Ando.

4) Parkman shoots and kills Molly to protect his wife and unborn baby. This is where "Dark Parkman" from the future is born!

Molly is the third person Hiro brings to Bennet. (DL, Candace, Molly)
I'm not sure whether that event (Hiro bringing them to Bennet) is in Original Timeline (since modified) or Revised Timeline though.

3) Ando's going to bite it when he confronts Sylar. In the "future" we know Ando dies, but we assumed he was blown up in the explosion. But Future Hiro never actually said HOW Ando died (dies).

Was Ando reading from the Future Comic, or a map? hard to tell.
Why did Ando get a freaking SWORD anyway? Silly man.

5) Peter explodes!!! But somehow Hiro saves the day, perhaps by reversing time in a similar fashion as he reversed the bullet trashy Vegas lady shot at him. If all the prophecies, time travel predictions and paintings come true . . . the bomb has to go off . . .

I don't know that it's a sure thing that Peter explodes anymore, but next week will be the only answer we can have.

 

[Steel_Wind]

Nope. DL didn't die in this episode, only seriously wounded. In fact, in next week's trailer we see him alive, if not well.

In fact, I'm willing to bet money he survives this season. In order for the finale to work, NOTHING can change except for what Hiro and Ando do to try and stop Sylar (or Peter!).

DL has to survive so that if the bomb does go off, he can be "hidden" by Parkman and Bennett only to have Sylar eat him later!

Other predictions:

1) Hiro does not stab Sylar . . . We already know that Sylar is not the bomb, Peter is! In the "future" episode, Future Hiro's warnings to Peter prevent Sylar from getting Claire's powers, but he obviously was still around to take them later. And Quinto (the actor behind Sylar) is already signed for next season! (although taking that into account is kinda cheating)

2) No hero we see in the "future" episode dies . . . at least not until after the "crisis point" when the day is saved by Hiro and Ando.

3) Ando's going to bite it when he confronts Sylar. In the "future" we know Ando dies, but we assumed he was blown up in the explosion. But Future Hiro never actually said HOW Ando died (dies).

4) Parkman shoots and kills Molly to protect his wife and unborn baby. This is where "Dark Parkman" from the future is born!

5) Peter explodes!!! But somehow Hiro saves the day, perhaps by reversing time in a similar fashion as he reversed the bullet trashy Vegas lady shot at him. If all the prophecies, time travel predictions and paintings come true . . . the bomb has to go off . . .

D.L. is not dead....yet. I don't think he'll last the season though. A single Nikki is more interesting than a married one.

I don't think Ando dies. I think Hiro - or somebody - saves him.

I don't believe for a second that Parkman shoots Molly; and for that matter, I don't think Bennett will either. They will see another path: to escape with Molly.

So the great FBI agent falls for Sylar's trap. What a moron.

I'm not realy sure how any of this is going to turn out. But with Linderman dead, I think the chance of Nathan dying now is very small. We need villains. Sylar only goes so far. D.L.'s fist in Linderman's skull saved Nate's life by default I think.

Candice may survive her confrontation with Nikki. With Jessica - I don't think she had a chance. Nikki might take pity though.

Anyways - really looking forward to next week.

Remember folks - it's a Two Hour extended edition next week. None of this BOOM - it's over in 41 minutes stuff.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Point 1: Ted didn't mean to blow up the van to escape the feds, he lost control of his powers. He learns to control them AFTER he escapes the feds.

We didn't see the event, just the aftermath.

Point 2: Ted IS disoriented! Dude, after a car crash like that, Ted is lucky (or rather, unlucky) to still be conscious.

When Ted was shot, he almost destroyed a city in Texas. Is he too disoriented to use his power, but not disoriented enough to lose control?

Point 3: Ted is seriously hurt, scared and then Sylar starts cutting into him . . . but there is a part of Ted that just wants to die to atone for the people he's killed (especially his wife) and the people he might kill if he explodes like Peter told him he might.

I don't think Ted just wanted to die, and we certainly weren't told such.

Point 4: You try rationally thinking, "Hey, that guy's taking my head off (and it REALLY hurts), I should shoot him with my radioactive power without exploding and endangering New York!" . . . even if you haven't just been in an incredibly nasty car wreck.

See point 2 above.

Point 5: Sylar is awful quick with his head laser. He's had lots of practice and he's learned the hard way he has to make it good and quick so his victim DOESN'T use their powers against him . . . like Peter did!

You can come up with plenty of justifications, I'm sure. I'll continue to view it as a plot point that wasn't well choreographed. Ted needed to die, but they didn't knock him unconscious because they wanted him to scream like all previous Sylar victims.

 

[Dire Bare]

Hiro's training with his father seemed kind of silly...what does a few hours of kendo really do? The only thing that remotely makes sense is that it was supposed to get Hiro into a mental place where he could do what he had to (the same way getting the sword let him feel confident in his powers again). Still, you think he'd have knocked on the door and told Ando that it was going to be a few hours. And when is he going to fight the T-Rex (his own personal dragon) already?!

That's how I saw it while watching. Hiro's Dad wasn't trying to teach Hiro to be a Kensai in the few hours they had together. But was mentally preparing Hiro for what he has to do.

Also, I get the idea that when Linderman is talking about the old days and the heroes who lost their way . . . he's talking about Hiro's Dad. And when Hiro's Dad is talking about the old days and the heroes who lost their way . . . he's talking about Linderman.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Also, I get the idea that when Linderman is talking about the old days and the heroes who lost their way . . . he's talking about Hiro's Dad. And when Hiro's Dad is talking about the old days and the heroes who lost their way . . . he's talking about Linderman.

The comic doesn't mention powers for Petrelli Sr, so I dunno there, but Hiro's dad is in the flashback when Claire is given to Bennet. He was a part of the organization at that point at least. It'll be interesting to see the history further explored, perhaps even in second season.


Oh, and now we can have Nathan calling for Mutant Registration, after an evil DL killed Innocent Businessman Linderman.

The Linderman Act will stop such horrible things from occuring again.

 

[Dire Bare]

Molly is the third person Hiro brings to Bennet. (DL, Candace, Molly)
I'm not sure whether that event (Hiro bringing them to Bennet) is in Original Timeline (since modified) or Revised Timeline though.

Ah! You're right! I'd forgotten that. DL, Candice, AND Molly have to survive to Parkman and Bennett can unwittingly lead them to Sylar's dinner table in the possible Dark Future!

So why does Parkman become Dark Parkman? I guess it could be a nuclear bomb taking out half of New York . . .

 

[WayneLigon]

Hiro's training with his father seemed kind of silly...what does a few hours of kendo really do?

I'm thinking Mr. Nakamura has a similar power; for all we know he kept them in a bubble of slow time so he could teach Hiro what he needed in an afternoon.

 

[Glyfair]

And is it kendo or kenjitsu?

It's generally considered a difference in focus. Kendo is about using it as an exercise for inner improvement, kenjutsu is about using it to focus on learning how to fight.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Some nice one liners. I liked Hiro's training montage. In fact, I must be coming down with something. I can only think of one thing to complain about! DL should have killed Linderman as soon as he tried to buy off Nikki. And "He's not dead yet." He was still moving in the last shot of him and Jessica. At least, that's what it looked like to me.

Got those reversed. It was Jessica being bought off and Nikki at the end with DL. They also partly redemed Jessica since she knew she would betray Micah and DL for the money so voluntarily relinquished control back to Nikki. The interesting thing was the statement that the strength power was Nikki's in the first place but she just didn't know how to activate it. This makes somewhat more sense given that Jessica was a real person and is now dead. If Jessica's power was somehow body jumping then she jumped to her sister before her body died. Jessica at this point at least knew she had powers and was more likely to check and see if Nikki did as well.