Heroes Season 1(#8)---11/13/06-'Seven Minutes to Midnight'

[Dracomeander]

If Hiro doesn't save the waitress, Charlie, Sylar will be a lot harder to deal with. However, Sylar having her power in a confrontation with Peter would probably be the one thing that would allow Peter to survive such an encounter.

Charlie's power is far more than just an enhanced memory. I would call it hypercognition. The memory is just the easiest, and most visible aspect to demonstrate. It takes a lot more than just memory to learn things as quickly as she was.

That ability to speed learn would be the only way Peter could gain conscious effective use of the powers that normally require practice to control well.

 

[Fast Learner]

Charlie's power is far more than just an enhanced memory. I would call it hypercognition. The memory is just the easiest, and most visible aspect to demonstrate. It takes a lot more than just memory to learn things as quickly as she was.

Indeed, and to even learn things she's not actually exposed to. It's done endearingly, but it's actually a pretty big deal when Hiro points out that one of the things she says, that he's sweet, isn't in the book. It's possible, of course, that he meant that part of the book, but it's possible that she's picking up knowledge that isn't even directly presented.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

I know who Sylar is.

He’s Dr. Neuman, from “House of Frankenstein,” who in that movie wanted to take brains and steal brains and transplant brains and so forth and so on. Indeed, his solution to all his problems in that movie apparently involved getting his hands on other people’s brains.

Brains…

Silliness aside, the theory that Peter Petrelli and Sylar are the same person does not feel thematically right for the show. The programs has not demonstrated a tendency to lay in that kind of tragedy, nor being that hopelessly convoluted. Honestly, I have trouble following that line of thought and I’ve been into fantasy/science fiction for years. How much trouble will Joe Normal have trying to wrap his brains around the concept?

More brains…

I also say the way Niki Sanders evil personality (Iki Sanders) and Nathan Petrelli will assist Sylar, sooner or later. It is just they way they perceive their best interests.

The waitress was named “Charlie,” and she apparently possessed some kind of eidetic memory power. It may have been augmented by a low grade telepathy or powerful intuition, allowing her to learn language elements she had not been exposed to…

…but not apparently letting her know someone was going to open her head like a can of Spam and steal her brains.

Who is going to be the fist to die, among the reoccurring characters?

Edit: An interesting wrinkle is that Sylar is apparently the same man who murdered Mohinder's father – the same watch in seen in the diner and in the cab, wrapped around a hairy wrist. However, he apparently battered that man to death and broke his neck. He did not, however, open his head and take his brain. Further, he committed the murder with his bare hands and not with telekinesis.

At least, that is the way it unfolded in the dream.

 

[JEL]

Sylar's map was way better than the Dr.'s. Either he somehow has access to more/better info than Saresh, or he's willing to accept more errors.

The key is obviously the computer program that Dr. Saresh has. Sylar was apparently able to decipher it. I imagine we'll have to wait 'til Micah gets a hold of it before any of the heroes will be able to understand it.

 

[PhoenixDarkDirk]

Saw this on superherohype.com

Fantastic!

 

[Felon]

Yeah, but Peter wouldn't necessarily be a challenge for Sylar. Just because Peter gains the powers doesn't mean he'd know what to do with them (or at least, be as effective as he could be). And since he doesn't suppress the powers in other people (as seen in the flying with Nathan bit), Sylar would be full up and--theoretically--able to best use them, having had practice.

Yes, but the theoretical tends to mean squat in good-guy/bad-guy fights. The villain is often more intelligent and experienced than the hero, yet the hero triumphs anyway through sheer gumption. That's what would happen here.

 

[John Crichton]

Yes, but the theoretical tends to mean squat in good-guy/bad-guy fights. The villain is often more intelligent and experienced than the hero, yet the hero triumphs anyway through sheer gumption. That's what would happen here.

Typically, the hero needs his/her companions to pull off such a feat. Usually some outside force would give the hero a second wind to combat the villain. And the way the show is going it will take a team effort to take out the Big Bad. And I'm not just talking about Peter absorbing the other characters powers.

 

[DonTadow]

When Sylar tried to kill/kidnap the little girl from the FBI building. Matt-the-psicop shot him, knocking him down. We 'assumed' that he killed/wounded Sylar, but then Sylar left by jumping/flying out of a shaft.

(this ignores the concept that the deep-secure part of the FBI building is directly attached to steam tunnels )

sigh... i have missed one episode of the show. I am betting that this is that one episode. Talk about something very important.

 

[Man in the Funny Hat]

A couple observations:

First, I've suddenly realized that there's one painting Isaac did that has me... confused I guess. I'm just not sure where it fits into things. It's the one that looks like a solar eclipse. I suppose it just means that there will be a solar eclipse during/around the big showdown, unless it's supposed to be a painting of... I dunno, the entire Earth having it's surface scorched by nukes?

Second, have you noticed how difficult it is for people to remember these characters NAMES? I have the same problem but figured out why - nobody USES the names of other characters on the show much, or at all. Because they are only just starting to interact with each other personally rather than through remote plot connections the characters names just don't get USED much. Exceptions being Matt and Claire who are addressed directly more often than other characters. Just something odd that struck me.

 

[LightPhoenix]

First, I've suddenly realized that there's one painting Isaac did that has me... confused I guess. I'm just not sure where it fits into things. It's the one that looks like a solar eclipse. I suppose it just means that there will be a solar eclipse during/around the big showdown, unless it's supposed to be a painting of... I dunno, the entire Earth having it's surface scorched by nukes?

We're led to believe the eclipse Isaac painted is the one that opened the series.

Second, have you noticed how difficult it is for people to remember these characters NAMES?

Clea DuVall's character is the one that always gets me. Audrey, but only because I finally looked it up yesterday. Nonetheless, I too have found it difficult to remember anyone's names. All the main characters I've got, and Zach, Audrey, and Ando. Still, damned if I can remember Nathan's wife's name, or Matt's wife's name.