Heroes Season [Volume] 1(#23)---5/21/07-'How to stop an Exploding Man' Season Ending.

[Wycen]

I watched with 2 buddies and we liked it, but as we asked each other all these questions I realized I was a little disappointed, but mostly because I wanted to see new villains next season not Sylar again.

Of course one question I haven't seen asked; we see Sylar slinked away, but they have the tracking system, so how long is he going to be safe? They need to team up and hunt him down, but I suspect we'll get more disjointed action next season.

 

[DonTadow]

I have to say that I was pretty angry after watching the finale last night. It wasn't even close to what I wanted. We were given very few answers and a lot more questions. The fight with Sylar was really anti-clamatic. Nathan's "sacrafice" was stupid. Why would Claire be so conflicted about shooting Peter? Why can Peter only use some of his powers on a consistent basis? Why doesn't someone pick up the gun and shoot Sylar just to be sure? You would have thought that Mohinder would have learned that leason. Why doesn't Hiro freeze time to kill Syler. And how the heck is DL still standing at the end of the battle after being shot? Stupid, stupid, stupid. This one was very dissappointing to me.

To answer your questions in rambling order
Nathan was conflicted for the last three episodes and had yet to really make a choice. Seeing his daughter and brother inperil he chose to act. Do remember the conversation Peter said, Nathan had never let him down. That was a good forshadowing that Nathan would flip the script. Try shooting your uncle whom saved your life. Peter seems to be able to use inivisiblity right well because of his esposure to Claude. But Peter still is a level 2 character. This is a good thing. YOu don't want them to pull a matrix and run out of challenges for their best character so soon. Right now his challenge is mastering his powers. It's best to watch shows and remember you're not playing a d and d game. If someone is stabbed and falls to the ground in real life, no ones going to over and
1. cut off his head
2. shoot him for good measure
I think everyone thought Sylar was dead. There needed to be another 5 minutes of that scene where we see everyone clear out and leave. We actually don't know if sylar crawled away or was dragged away. We also don't know what power sylar is using to move so effectively. It seems more illusionary than physical. Hiro is honorable. Hiro also could have stabbed him from behind. But facing your enemy is a big part of hiro's personality. The last conversation with Ando was forshadowing that Hiros power does not make him a hero, his courage does. The most painful and agoning place to take a bullet is in the gut. It is avery slow and painful death if left untreated.

I would have liked to see a bigger action scene, but this was never about the action scenes as much as it was about the character growth. These are very low level characters.

 

[Sir Brennen]

I would have liked to see a bigger action scene, but this was never about the action scenes as much as it was about the character growth. These are very low level characters.

Didn't you just say you shouldn't look at this like a DnD game?

But you know what... in a show about humans with fantastical powers, for the season finale, I want action scenes! We've had the entire season beforehand for character growth. Not to say that character growth can't occur during the action scenes, but still... action scenes!

[EDIT]: Action scenes... that make sense!

 

[EricNoah]

I didn't love it -- I couldn't figure out why Peter couldn't just fly away by himself, and I couldn't figure out how Sylar allowed himself to get stabbed. And I didn't really feel the emotions I was probably supposed to feel.

 

[Arnwyn]

A pretty good episode - I found a few moments to be anti-climactic, but overall I enjoyed myself.

I was hoping more from Hiro stabbing Sylar, instead of just running and hitting him, with Sylar looking like he just stood there. Maybe Hiro teleporting back and forth across the courtyard dodging Sylar's TK blasts, then teleporting in for the kill!

I also didn't like Sylar surviving, which I think is very unfortunate. Oh well, can't win 'em all.

I liked everything else. IMO, Molly's guy "who looks back" is indeed next season's BBEG (and, also IMO, patently obvious).

Edit: Oh yeah, other highlights:
- Extremely glad Ando survived. That almost made the episode for me!
- Also glad that the "future can't be changed" people were proven to be out-to-lunch. I should say so.

 

[wolff96]

When Ando entered Isaac's loft, he stumbled over something on the floor. Looking down, he saw a lot of blood with no obvious source.

Later, Hiro entered the same apartment and stumbled over something on the floor. When Hiro looked down, he saw a lot of blood with no obvious source.

We know Isaac was killed in that place, but the blood from that would have been dry a LONG time ago.

Did it seem to anyone else like they were trying to VERY subtly convey that Claude could be dead and Sylar is using his invisibility to move around so well? He just flat-out APPEARED behind Peter and Bennett in the square.

We know he can sort-of fly -- or at least hurl himself with TK, which amounts to the same thing -- from the episode when he first tried to get Molly's power and also the episode when he snuck up on the Super-Hearing lady. (She said she hadn't heard his approaching footsteps and Sylar off-handedly comments that he hadn't taken any steps.) He *could* have snuck up that way.

But his comment about "I've been here for a while, what took you so long" (something like that) makes me think he might have found Claude and gained a new trick. Although I have to wonder how in the world he could have actually found Claude...

 

[Fast Learner]

My theory on the BBEG that Molly won't search for because "he" looks back at her is that it is Ma Petrelli. Mom is deffiinitely associated with the last generation of supers but has yet to reveal what her power is. She was well aware of the bomb and was working with Linderman to make that future happen. She is fairly evil and if she thinks that Hiro and company are responsible for both her sons death (but especially Nathan's) she might just go overboard.

Ooh, excellent point. It also explains something I noticed last night: Ma Petrelli knew that Linderman was dead almost immediately after he died. If you follow the timeline between the two episodes, there doesn't seem to be any obvious way for her to have known to quickly.

(Yes, one of Linderman's assistants could have discovered the body right after Nikki & DL left, and then called her, but that's a lot of assuming, too.)

Did it seem to anyone else like they were trying to VERY subtly convey that Claude could be dead and Sylar is using his invisibility to move around so well? He just flat-out APPEARED behind Peter and Bennett in the square.

Oooh, very good! That makes perfect sense. I sure couldn't figure out what they were trying to show.

 

[Tolen Mar]

Ahem...Let me just go back to last weeks thread...

Did anyone else notice how Sylar dissapeared after telling the FBI agent about 'his duty'?

Has he had invisibility for a while now and I missed it? Or does this mean that Claude has been gone now for a while because Sylar got to him?

I know they didn't show him fade out, but that's what I got from that scene when he said something, and she turned around and he wasn't there.

Further what does that mean for the big showdown if he can go invisible too?

You guys still think I was off the mark?

 

[sniffles]

Ahem...Let me just go back to last weeks thread...



You guys still think I was off the mark?

Sylar did not turn invisible. He just walked away while the agent was distracted. Not that hard to do in a crowd. I'm pretty sure they would have shown us if he'd killed Claude.

He didn't need to be invisible to sneak away after Hiro stabbed him, either. No one was paying any attention to him after Peter and Nathan flew away. They were all too busy staring up at the sky. Everyone had other things on their minds.

 

[WayneLigon]

When Ando entered Isaac's loft, he stumbled over something on the floor. Looking down, he saw a lot of blood with no obvious source.

I wondered about that, myself.

Although I have to wonder how in the world he could have actually found Claude...

Hmm. The superhearing should help him, but I don't think it would do that much for him. It might, though. He has at least a handful of powers we probably have not seen; between TK-guy and Molly's parents he kills at least, what, four people? Enough that the FBI hs hi name and a pattern. Who knows how many others he might have taken out and just have not been found or missed, yet?

Interesting theory, though I thought Claude was suppossed to be back next season. Maybe just in flashbacks?