Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#27)---10/15/07-'The Kindness of Strangers'

Remus Lupin said:
I have to admit, there was a rather humorous "Matt and Mo the gay adoptive parents" vibe going on throughout the episode, which I don't think was entirely accidental.

Molly has two daddies. ;)
 

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Phoenix8008 said:
Oooh! Interesting theory! I did get the feeling that there was more going on there than a hug. And after her acrobatic expulsion of the robber, I'm betting she is now gonna be 'good manager material'.

But she was always good manager material. Her manager even told her that. Her scores weren't stellar, but they were solidly where they needed to be. She was turned down because they didn't think she could leave her family when she was sent across the state for training and/or her first management job.
 

A few random thoughts ...

Micah's cousin did mention that Katrina ruined her college dreams. Maybe we'll get more elaboration at some point.

The Claire/West dynamic reminds me way too much of Padme/Anikin. Is George Lucas writing their dialogue? I can see Claire trying to keep things secret, but it would be nice if after she found out West could fly she said "So you can fly? So can my biological father, and my uncle. Big deal."

I'm assuming that they'll milk Peter's memory loss for a few more episodes, but I assume the Haitian wiped his memory, and got the virus for his efforts. The series started with "Four Months Later" We'd better get a flashback episode, and soon. I liked DL, and we'd better get an explanation. Has the actor found other work?

I think the painting of Noah shot in the eye Mo Green style is a setup by the Company to draw him out.

Ma Patrelli gave the hairy eyeball to someone as she was being wheeled out. Thoughts as to who that was?
 
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GlassJaw said:
I think it showed that Mycah's ability to "repair" potentially goes beyond mechanic and electronic devices.

Actually, based on Micah's expression just afterwards (and what he said), I took that as 'he doesn't yet totally understand the capabilities of his powers - he just knows he can fix electronic things - and he feels bad for his cousin so why not try ....' but then nothing actually changed, but he was just trying out of love to test the limits of his capabilities.

that's how i took it when i saw it anyway.
 

DonTadow said:
I just don't buy those twins happen to find Sylar on the side of the road. All the roads in MExico all the immigrants trying to get across the border and they run into each other. That is the lamest introductin ever.
Do you read comic books, watch movies? This is genre stuff baby all the way. And it happened ALL THE TIME last season. Moves the plot along, and fits into the "we're all connected" theme in this series.

Second, ok, why does this show seem to hate minorities. The mexicans are runaways, DL is dead. The black girl is an aspiring singer at a fast food restaurant whose only goal is to want to be manager at a fast food restaurant. The black kid is ultra ghetto. We all do not act like that. But this is the image. I have a big problem when the kid with mixed heritage being the smarter, less ghetto of the two. Why can't the other kid be normal. (because he has black parents?).
Why does this show hate minorities? A better question is why do people see discrimination under every bush and tree (not that there isn't plenty of discrimination left in the world, there is). DL wasn't killed off because he's black, he was killed off because he was a secondary character who didn't prove as popular as others. I'm bummed, cause I think DL was a strong character who could have used more development.

The black girl, Micah's cousin, isn't an aspiring singer who wants nothing more than to be a manager at a fast food joint. Did we watch the same episode? She clearly stated she was in school and on her way to a great life when Katrina happened. She lost her parents and her ability to go to school (probably money, but maybe the school was wiped off the map). Now she is doing everything in her power to better her situation to both provide for her family and get back into college. I'm really digging this character, her power seems similar to the waitress' power from last season.

And has been repeatedly pointed out on these threads, the Death Twins aren't Mexican. They're Honduran, I believe (or was it Guatemalan?). And they aren't just border jumpers, they are running from the law as suspected murderers and running towards what they hope is a cure.

Micah's other cousin, the wrestling fan, is somewhat stereotypical. However, he's also a very realistic character. Sorry, but true. This character bugs me, but not because he acts "ghetto", but rather because he acts like a typical bratty 13-year-old kid who treats everybody around him like crap.

Then there was the whole need money for pay per view stupid convo. YOu have to order a pay per view either on the phone, internet or in person and last i checked none of them is taking cash from a 10 year old. So even if he had the cash he couldn't order it. 65 bucks for a pay per view, boxing matches aren't even that price.

Actually, having worked for DirecTV, $65.00 for a big wrestling pay-per-view event is pretty standard. In fact, they can get higher. And we had kids calling in ALL the time to order them, and we would do it. If the parents don't put any locks or restrictions on a TV account, kids can pretty much order anything! Heck, they don't even necessarily need the $65.00 up front, we can add it to the monthly bill!!! So this part of the episode is SO REAL IT HURTS (sorry, bad DTV memories surfacing).

Racism and discrimination is a serious issue and still exists in TV shows and movies. But when people start seeing it EVERYWHERE, especially where it just isn't there, it trivializes real discrimination that we need to watch out for and act against.
 

Pseudonym said:
I think the painting of Noah shot in the eye Mo Green style is a setup by the Company to draw him out.
Oooh, didn't think of that!

Ma Patrelli gave the hairy eyeball to someone as she was being wheeled out. Thoughts as to who that was?
I did notice that too, wonder who?
 

Relique du Madde said:
Mat's Alignment is Lawful Stupid. He's a danger to Molly and those around him do to his reckless behavior. "What, my dad is a psychic villian that can lock in on you when you think about him? Cool, I want you to think about him, and don't worry, he won't hurt you since that's all in your head... See... I'm psychic, I know these things. Trust me. [/wink]"

Heh. I like Matt's character, however he has proven time and time again he is rash and acts without fully thinking things through. I'm more pissed at Mohinder for letting him go through with it. I do like that not all of our heroes are always making the "right" decision, and sometimes they do very stupid things. Adds a bit of realism to our superhero story, don't you think?
 

Phoenix8008 said:
Oooh! Interesting theory! I did get the feeling that there was more going on there than a hug. And after her acrobatic expulsion of the robber, I'm betting she is now gonna be 'good manager material'.
I think you guys are off base. I do think Micah tried to "fix" his cousin, but was bummed that HE COULDN'T DO IT. Her ability to absorb WWE style fighting skills is due to the same reason she carved a perfect rose from a tomato at work (pre-hug, I might add). She's got the same, or similar, power to the waitress last year.

Overall, a good episode but not excellent. The Claire/West/HRG triangle is gonna go all season long and if the painting is accurate we know where it will end. As much as I liked HRG by the end of season one, I gotta admit he's acting pretty selfish. You don't earn trust by keeping secrets, and now the lies and secrets will grow and take on a life of their own.
HRG, er, Noah, is trying to solve the problems his family places in the only way he knows how. Getting in touch with his own inner James Bond. But you're right, his inability to open up to and trust Claire could very well lead to the event depicted in the painting!

Nathan was interesting, especially the face in the mirror. So I guess he has a restraining order against him based on what the teacher at his boys' school said? Musta fallen really hard after Peter went boom. Enough to get kicked out of office, or maybe resign?
According to votepetrelli.com, Nathan did resign his senate seat, he wasn't "fired" (takes a lot to fire a senator, deserved or not). Something bad definitely went down as Nathan disintegrated after Peter's apparent death. Is it tied to the vision of Nuclear Pete that Nathan keeps seeing in mirrors? Is Nuclear Pete real somehow, or just a manifestation of Nathan's guilt?

Neat to see Ma Patrelli wanting to pay for her 'crimes'. Felt so wrong for her to be making the sacrifice of herself that at first I was waiting to see if someone was controlling her or had replaced her. Or maybe jail is jsut the safest place for her to hide from the real killer.
Ma Petrelli wants her son Nathan to get his life back, reunite with his wife and kids, and stay safe. She has zero interest in paying for her crimes, but she's resigned to whatever's going to happen with the mysterious killer.
 

Grog said:
It's not about Claire lying to her dad to see a boy - it's about Claire trusting said boy, who she's known all of one week, and who upset her badly enough to make her flee a classroom in tears, more than her father. Especially when, back in season 1, she found out all the extraordinary risks her father took to protect her while she was growing up.

That's terrible characterization, and the only reason it's happening is because the writers want to manufacture some artificial drama in Claire's relationship with her father.
When's the last time you were a teenage girl in love? This part of the story is very believable.

Plus, it's not so much that Claire distrusts her father . . . . she just knows that when West recognizes her dad as HRG, the man who abducted him . . . . and when her dad recognizes West, he realize he knows this boy . . . . well, Claire's a smart girl and I think she realizes it just can't end well if those two meet. And judging by the painted she hasn't seen, she just might be right!
 

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