Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#29)---10/29/07-'The Line'

[hafrogman]

Hey, what if peter and the irish woman cause the virus by traveling back to the present after being infected.

I kind of like this one. We have an ultimate result, and a variety of ways to achieve that end.

Like in the first season, everyone assumed a bomb, then Ted, then Sylar, then Peter. When one avenue of distruction is averted, things soon twist themselves to get things back on the track. It takes a major event for the train to jump to an entirely new track.

Now we have a world wiped out by disease.

Is it Maya's power run rampant?
Sylar with Maya's power?
Peter with Maya's power?
The company's experiments with Shandi's disease? The vial shown in the painting?
One of the vials broken by Mohinder in his fit of rage?
Infections carried by time travel?

 

[Vocenoctum]

While we're at it, do any of Isaac's paintings matter since they changed the timeline and saved NY the last time? It seems we're supposed to take them as the future, but since the timeline has changed...

Heck, how could Isaac have predicted things like this anyway? He was dead before the 5 Years Later changed things again. Ah well, plot device it is.

 

[Relique du Madde]

While we're at it, do any of Isaac's paintings matter since they changed the timeline and saved NY the last time? It seems we're supposed to take them as the future, but since the timeline has changed...

Heck, how could Isaac have predicted things like this anyway? He was dead before the 5 Years Later changed things again. Ah well, plot device it is.

Here's the most probable explanation that the writers will give: Issac painted a lot of things that did not pertain to last years plot and the viral outbreak was supposed to happen 10 years into the future but unfortunately the timeline was pushed forward when the disaster was averted.

 

[Ilium]

So I saw an ad yesterday where they pretty much said the plague was/will be caused by the company's experiment (the image was Nikki/Jessica holding the syringe that Mohinder was supposed to use on Micah's cousin, and the voice-over said something like "all from a few drops of this"). They're really pushing the next 5 episodes as a self-contained arc that will be very eventful. Is November a sweeps month?

 

[Victim]

So I saw an ad yesterday where they pretty much said the plague was/will be caused by the company's experiment (the image was Nikki/Jessica holding the syringe that Mohinder was supposed to use on Micah's cousin, and the voice-over said something like "all from a few drops of this"). They're really pushing the next 5 episodes as a self-contained arc that will be very eventful. Is November a sweeps month?

I think it's because of the writer's strike. They want to be able to wrap things up if the strike lasts a while.

 

[DonTadow]

I also heard today that they will be filming an alternative season finale in case they end the season december 8th.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

While we're at it, do any of Isaac's paintings matter since they changed the timeline and saved NY the last time? It seems we're supposed to take them as the future, but since the timeline has changed...

Heck, how could Isaac have predicted things like this anyway? He was dead before the 5 Years Later changed things again. Ah well, plot device it is.

Issacs paintings all came true, it is mearly a matter of who's perspective you are looking at. The bomb exploded and NY was ruined in Hiro's Timeline. Hiro did see all of those things and still has memory of them, so what Issac painted did come true. Everything Issac (and now Peter) litterally come true, they just don't always show what you think they show when you look at them. In this season there is a man dead with a bullet through horn rimmed glasses. I fully expect this to come true, the difference is that the dead man may not be Noah but rather someone else wearing his or similar glasses.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Issacs paintings all came true, it is mearly a matter of who's perspective you are looking at. The bomb exploded and NY was ruined in Hiro's Timeline. Hiro did see all of those things and still has memory of them, so what Issac painted did come true.

I'm sorry, but that's simply besides the point. In the current timeline the bomb didn't go off and destroy NY, and therefor any other pictures aren't bound to this timeline either. If you believe these paintings become true in some alternate timeline, that's possible, but that doesn't really have any bearing for the reality we're being shown.

 

[Relique du Madde]

I'm sorry, but that's simply besides the point. In the current timeline the bomb didn't go off and destroy NY, and therefor any other pictures aren't bound to this timeline either. If you believe these paintings become true in some alternate timeline, that's possible, but that doesn't really have any bearing for the reality we're being shown.

Then in other words, Issac's power is not really to paint the future BUT instead to paint a POSSIBLE future. This would be inline with how prophecy works since half the time a prediction is made so that the events stated within it could be changed.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

I'm sorry, but that's simply besides the point. In the current timeline the bomb didn't go off and destroy NY, and therefor any other pictures aren't bound to this timeline either. If you believe these paintings become true in some alternate timeline, that's possible, but that doesn't really have any bearing for the reality we're being shown.

But Issac did not paint an alternate timeline, he painted the existing timeline. Unless you think that existing Hiro (and now Peter) are not part of our current timeline because they teleported to a alternate timeline and back. All of Issac's paintings have come true in our current timeline, the ones showing New York destroyed and Peter in the biohazard room both were painted before they lept to the future and saw those particular events. Once they did the paintings were true for our current timeline because someone in our current timeline experienced them (and remembers them) no matter what the real future holds.

Too further demonstrate my point in the series of eight this year the picture of Peter in the biohazard room is sequentially before the painting that looks like HRG being shot even though the Peter painting painting is theoretically in the future. This is because Peter experiences that (and is true for him) before the HRG painting in the current timeline.

Also last year Issac painted Peter exploding. Peter did explode but he did so far above NYC. Everyone assumed that because there was a painting of NYC destroyed by a nuke blast and one of Peter exploding that these were the same event. They were not, they were seperate events that happened to seperate people each happening at different points in the timestream.