Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#31)---11/12/07-'Four Months Ago'

[Vocenoctum]

1) Nuclear Explosions & EMPs:

Ted could create an EMP blast without radiation (or at least reduced radiation), but I'd think the uncontrolled explosion would be everything.

2) Isaacs Painting:
It is true that we know the events depicted in his paintings can be averted.

It's not so much as "the paintings are preventable" as "anything past the Key Event" is meaningless, sort of. But, the paintings don't really seem to sync with the events of "5 Years Later" either.

The paintings are still interesting, and they seem a nice way to motivate people.

As I mentioned in a previous thread, I wished they'd simply used a different painter. Isaac didn't seem to be the first Prophet Painter, IIRC Lindermen had other paintings in his gallery that might be from previous.

Some questions:
Is it possible that Adam did find Hiro as a young child, and his attack on Hiro (or Hiros friends) forced the Company to remove him from his position and put him into his cell?

I like the idea that he killed Hiro's mom and then Sulu shoved a sword in his gut, and then they threw him in jail.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I think Adam is and always will be the Company. I think that "genetics" are the key to the show's plotting

Given the symbol, I'd almost hope it's something divine or something, rather than a simple "we're mutants" thing. Especially given how none of the families seem to share powers.

You seem to suspect a plot device/hole when an immediate explanation is not given.

Or perhaps my constant disappointment from about the 3/4 point of first season, through most of this season has jaded me. Either way, we're talking about opinions, so it's not a big deal.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

If Peter could regenerate the Haitians memory wipe thanks to Adams (and Claires?) power, maybe Adam is even better at it, and thus is totally immune to the Haitians power.
That might explain why it was impossible to kill him, even with the Haitians help. (Though I think it is still more likely that they kept him around because there was still so much to be found out about his powers).

Given the symbol, I'd almost hope it's something divine or something, rather than a simple "we're mutants" thing. Especially given how none of the families seem to share powers.

In the Heroes timeline, the symbol appeared together with Adam - it was his chosen symbol for his Kensei identity. Maybe he _really_ is "Adam" for the purpose of superpowered heroes.
We don't know yet how many heroes actually exist, but is it possible that they could all have the same ancestor? (Very fruitful then, this Adam guy )

What if at some point regeneration can be trained to degeneration (no cross chops folks). What if adam can break down cells as well as he can repair them. We've seen all the other powers get exponentially better.

What if it can be used to _mutate_? Maybe Adam found a way to use his regeneration power to mutate other people. (Which cuts down the required scope of his libido )
Maybe the strange sequence in the DNA that looks like the "Godsend" symbol is actually Adams manipulation?

Maybe I am getting a bit to hung up on my idea that Adam might be the original Hero, but I really like the theory.

Maybe the superheroes are like a Cancer on the scale of humanity instead of a single human. The Hero Trait starts off as a single cell that is slightly mutated. The cell multiplies itself (Adams first children), and begins to spread through the world (adam and his children wandering the world). Instead of damaging the surrounding cells/organs, this Cancer transforms them (maybe some cancers can do that? I don't think that's normal, though), which is the next step. Now, the cancer is everywhere in the system, and the only cure (the virus) is like a chemo therapy - yes, it affects the cancer most, but the rest of the body doesn't take well to it, either. And if you're unlucky enough, it kills you (the Ashanti virus affects all humans)...

 

[Hand of Evil]

It is also possible that Adam's blood can raise the freshly dead. Could explain Sylar...hey maybe Lienderman (sp) will come back!

 

[hafrogman]

You all seem very accepting of D.L.'s death. Am I the only one that didn't see it? I see a gun pointed to where we think he is, but he's not even on screen at the time. I see a gunshot, and a splatter of blood. I see a funeral, but no body.

Why dodge so much around showing an actual dead or dying D.L.? They can't be squeamish, they've done it before.

Maybe it's just my comic book/movie no body = not dead cynicism. . .

 

[DonTadow]

You all seem very accepting of D.L.'s death. Am I the only one that didn't see it? I see a gun pointed to where we think he is, but he's not even on screen at the time. I see a gunshot, and a splatter of blood. I see a funeral, but no body.

Why dodge so much around showing an actual dead or dying D.L.? They can't be squeamish, they've done it before.

Maybe it's just my comic book/movie no body = not dead cynicism. . .

I thought the same thing, there is a chance he is alive. But I can't think of a reason why they would fake his death?

 

[Relique du Madde]

I thought the same thing, there is a chance he is alive. But I can't think of a reason why they would fake his death?

Unfortunately, I don't see him coming back soon (unless there is a necromancer power) because last season's final online comic had several panels with Wireless talking to Miccah about death (while alluding to that fact that DL had also died). This same conversation was replayed during week 2 (?) of this season as part of one of the Heroes: Evolution websites.

As far as I could tell, having DL survive two months after last season's finally was an after thought.

 

[DonTadow]

Unfortunately, I don't see him coming back soon (unless there is a necromancer power) because last season's final online comic had several panels with Wireless talking to Miccah about death (while alluding to that fact that DL had also died). This same conversation was replayed during week 2 (?) of this season as part of one of the Heroes: Evolution websites.

As far as I could tell, having DL survive two months after last season's finally was an after thought.

Thats the thing, there would have to be a great reason why dl would go with a plan to fake his death and not tell micah.

 

[Felon]

As I said, that is far too much power to give Sylar. The ability to kill hundreds of people at a time. Think about it, Maya wiped out an entire village the first time her power manifested. Far too much power for Sylar.

IMHO, of course. He may indeed kill both of them, but I think that would be a huge mistake for the story.

Well, giving Sylar all the powers that he had was a mistake as well, because it then took a Peter to counter him, and having one guy with all of the hero powers at his disposal is certainly lousy for story purposes. Both should be killed off or watered-down in some way.

Of course, I can see them having another showdown where Peter uses Alejandro's power to counteract Maya's.

Speaking of Maya, I have to say she incredibly attractive--she even makes the black-eye bit work for her. I'm glad her English is conveniently improving the same way Hiro's did.

 

[Darkwolf71]

Well, giving Sylar all the powers that he had was a mistake as well, because it then took a Peter to counter him, and having one guy with all of the hero powers at his disposal is certainly lousy for story purposes. Both should be killed off or watered-down in some way.

Agreed. Both should have been removed from the story line Sylar by death. Peter by death, burn-out, loss of powers, something.

Of course, I can see them having another showdown where Peter uses Alejandro's power to counteract Maya's.

Interesting idea.

Speaking of Maya, I have to say she incredibly attractive--she even makes the black-eye bit work for her. I'm glad her English is conveniently improving the same way Hiro's did.

Yes, yes she is. I actually find her more attractive than either Niki or Claire... well, ok. It's a close run with Claire, but still. Too bad her power and storyline were made so lame.