Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#31)---11/12/07-'Four Months Ago'

[Taelorn76]

Another thought just occurred to me. Adam was in the company with Hiro's Father. Why not take out his father when Hiro was a kid. What better way to destroy all you hold dear then to kill your father

 

[Taelorn76]

He founded the company. He knew Kaito Nakamura and almost-certainly therefore knew Hiro at a younger age (in the flashbacks, we saw Kaito bringing little Hiro along to meetings with Company folks). He didn't strike at Hiro then because he didn't want to break the timeline in a paradox--Adam had to wait for Hiro to go to the past and meet Adam's own past self before he could start torturing present-Hiro directly because successfully killing Hiro before the jump back would be paradox and attacking directly face-to-face in the present without killing Hiro would cause Hiro to realise when he went back in time 'Holy crap--Kensei is immortal and evil!'

Yes there is that paradox. But he never said he would destroy Hiro, just every thing he held dear. He could have taken out his friends, his pets if he had any. Just done anything to make Hiro's life unhappy.

 

[RangerWickett]

Hehe. I can imagine.

Hiro: "Kensei! You're alive! How?!"

Adam: "Call me Adam, my old friend. And I'm alive because I will not let myself die until all you love is destroyed."

Hiro: "No Kensei! You are hero!"

Adam: "Really? Do you remember, back when you were a boy, the turtle you had as a pet? The turtle who somehow, tragically, managed to jump off a balcony to his death?"

Hiro: "Kamehameha? . . . You killed Kamehameha?"

Adam: (smiles) "Well, I didn't want to cause a paradox, you know, but I did find ways to cause you a bit of suffering here and there. Now tell me, old boy, would a 'hero' do that?"

 

[WayneLigon]

Director's blog about this episode.

 

[WayneLigon]

Another thought just occurred to me. Adam was in the company with Hiro's Father. Why not take out his father when Hiro was a kid. What better way to destroy all you hold dear then to kill your father

Up until the last few months before his death, Nakamura thought of his son as an idiot so I'm guessing things were not very nice for Hiro when he was a kid. Adam probably liked that. Also, I'm thinking Adam is smart enough not to do anything at all that might interfere with Hiro coming back in time, because Hiro is the only reason Adam ever discovered his powers.

I get the idea that even if you have an 'internal always on' power like that, until you 'discover' or something happens to force the issue, it doesn't work. So you could live your entire life and die when you had the seeds of immortality inside you unless something happened to make you aware of it.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Director's blog about this episode.

Gee, with all those people visiting the set, really surprised we have not seem them in the background!

 

[stonegod]

Hiro: "Kamehameha? . . . You killed Kamehameha?"

NOOOOO!

That was brilliant.

 

[Steel_Wind]

Up until the last few months before his death, Nakamura thought of his son as an idiot so I'm guessing things were not very nice for Hiro when he was a kid. Adam probably liked that.

Perhaps.

What we also know is that Kaito Nakamura was waiting in Kirby Plaza for a very long time (4 months) in order to be there upon Hiro's return. Kaito did this in order to present to Hiro "a legacy". He believed that presentation to be an urgent matter that simply could not wait and superceded all other concerns.

There is something that Kaito had to give to Hiro or otherwise tell him that Hiro must know or have. We can only speculate what the legacy is. It may be the disclosure of Hiro's true lineage (Kaito may not be his natural father) or some other secret or thing. It may be that Kaito was to tell Hiro that Hiro was, in fact, the real Kensei ("the wind at the back of history") and that the historical Takezo Kensei is a villain very much alive in the here and now. Or it may be something else entirely.

The delivery of that legacy was frustrated by Kaito's untimely death. I believe tha the substance of that legacy - whatever it was - will be sought by Hiro in the past. He will travel to a point in time where Kaito was alive in order to receive it.

And it is that act, I believe, which will bring Hiro face to face with the modern Adam Monroe and send Hiro off on a course to once again fight the future.

 

[Steel_Wind]

I get the idea that even if you have an 'internal always on' power like that, until you 'discover' or something happens to force the issue, it doesn't work. So you could live your entire life and die when you had the seeds of immortality inside you unless something happened to make you aware of it.

That's Highlander's immortality; there is no evidence at all to suggest that is the way it works in Heroes.

 

[ThirdWizard]

Another thought just occurred to me. Adam was in the company with Hiro's Father. Why not take out his father when Hiro was a kid. What better way to destroy all you hold dear then to kill your father

Adam has been in prison 30 years. Masi Oka (Hiro) is 33 years old. The two are very close together, and Adam may never have even known of Hiro before his imprisonment. In fact, if Nakamura knew of Adam's past as Kensei, he may very well have kepts his son's secret in tact. Wait, if he knew Adam was thwarted by a guy named Hiro in the past who could travel back in time before having his son, then... then... *head implodes*