Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#31)---11/12/07-'Four Months Ago'

[Steel_Wind]

My prediction: Sylar gets his powers back and kills Alejandro, taking his powers.

Sylar then saves NYC from the plague, redeeming himself and proving himself to be extraordinary, though I'll bet he dies in the process.

While it is possible that Sylar may perform a somewhat useful role - they aren't going to kill off Zach Quinto. He's much too popular for that.

Tim Kring likes being a mover and a shaker.

 

[Glyfair]

One thing that bugged me - Adam said that the company couldn't kill him.

It seems pretty clear to me that Adam is trying to manipulate Peter. There is no reason to feel that he wouldn't lie if it suited his purpose. Maybe it's the truth, maybe not.

 

[Steel_Wind]

It's worth mentioning that the Company does not necessarily know all that the viewer knows.

The stick in Claire's head is not something they know about. Hell - it's not something *Claire* knew about. She has no memory of it.

Claire did find the glass shard in Peter's head and pulled it out to revive Peter. That's the only incident of "super-healer death" we know that the characters are aware of. And we don't know what Angela Petrelli said about about that - or to who - or when.

It may be that Angela has kept that little gem a secret.

In the alternative, if Angela Petrelli was an ally of Linderman - and it seems pretty clear she was - and she told only Linderman about it... Well, Linderman was a protege of Adam and he may not have passed it on generally within the Company.

Just sayin' that the "secret" to killing Adam is already known to Angela Petrelli and Nathan - and probably HRG, who we can assume was told all about it by Claire .

Problem is, the two people with the power who were actually temporarily KILLED by having a large object inserted and left in their brain don't seem to appreciate the importance of leaving the object in the brain. Hence, Peter's wrong idea that a shot to the head would have done the trick.

All by way of saying - the Company may well have tried --and failed --to have killed Adam many times.

 

[Dire Bare]

These are people learning to use their abilities and - save for Peter's very brief tutelage - they have absolutely no way of knowing what they can do. They've repeatedly shown over and over again that power use is tied to emotional state - stress particularly can either activate an ability or shut it down. They've been perfectly consistant in that and most other things.

I keep trying to remind this crowd every other week or so of this point, but nobody seems to want simple rationality involved . . . . let's come up with some more crazy convoluted theories and trash characters for acting human rather than like comic book superheros!

 

[Vocenoctum]

I keep trying to remind this crowd every other week or so of this point, but nobody seems to want simple rationality involved . . . . let's come up with some more crazy convoluted theories and trash characters for acting human rather than like comic book superheros!

I think the main point of dissension isn't that we want them not acting human. It's that I don't see these huge gaping plot holes and inconsistency as a feature. Hiro's power works as it will at the moment, DL can go incorporeal when the plot calls for it, rather than logically following any chain of reasoning. We're supposed to feel pressure from Isaac's paintings, even though they've already (post explosion) proven to be changed.

People heal way too quickly, Matt, DL from gun shots, Sylar from a sword through the gut. I'm willing to accept it mostly, but it gets tiresome.

Character development seems to regress so they can repeat the same stuff over and over again.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Another element to keep in mind, though not sure exactly when it occured. Adam and (er, Matt's father) link up somehow. At the least, Adam knows and influences him. A bit more and it's easy to believe Adam controls him somehow? Assuming Adam set him on the other Old Guard that is.

Also, Michelle/Candace, I forget, but was she holding Sylar for The Company or for Adam's faction?

 

[Steel_Wind]

These are people learning to use their abilities and - save for Peter's very brief tutelage - they have absolutely no way of knowing what they can do. They've repeatedly shown over and over again that power use is tied to emotional state - stress particularly can either activate an ability or shut it down. They've been perfectly consistant in that and most other things.

I keep trying to remind this crowd every other week or so of this point, but nobody seems to want simple rationality involved . . . . let's come up with some more crazy convoluted theories and trash characters for acting human rather than like comic book superheros!

To the above note on Peter I would add that Sylar is the exception by design, and Monica is also now an exception; the nature of her power and her discussions with Mohinder and Bob have revealed to her the the nature and extent of her power. Given its ease of use, she also knows exactly how to use it. The rest, to Monica, is simply a matter of execution.

 

[Steel_Wind]

Another element to keep in mind, though not sure exactly when it occured. Adam and (er, Matt's father) link up somehow. At the least, Adam knows and influences him. A bit more and it's easy to believe Adam controls him somehow? Assuming Adam set him on the other Old Guard that is.

Also, Michelle/Candace, I forget, but was she holding Sylar for The Company or for Adam's faction?

There is nothing to forget; the viewer does not know. While Adam was imprisoned during the initial months of Sylar's recovery, by the time that Candace is speaking to whoever it is that she is speaking to on the phone, Adam was free. We just don't know who was behind Gabriel Gray's recovery during the initial months.

If it had been Bob, you would have thought the alarm bells would be ringing pretty loudly about now - but that need not necessarily be the case.

We also don't know if Sylar contracted the virus in the wild. It is entirely possible that he was exposed to the virus by accident as Molly Walker probably contracted the disease in the wild and her parents - who Sylar had intimate contact with - may also have had it and passed it on to Sylar.

And then again, it is possible that he was deliberately given the virus during his recovery to keep him under control - and that we has put in a remote area of Mexico to keep his existence secret and further isolate him given his infection.

We just don't know.

It is likely, however, that the strain of the virus that Sylar has, given the timing of his exposure, is one that Mohinder's blood is the cure for.

 

[Relique du Madde]

People heal way too quickly, Matt, DL from gun shots, Sylar from a sword through the gut. I'm willing to accept it mostly, but it gets tiresome.

Its a good thing this show isn't 24, cause then the recovery rate of those injuries would really annoy you....

Unfortunately, besides writers incompetence, the only real reason why the DL and Mat's recovery time was so messed up was so that Matt could actually do something during this season besides for sitting in Mohinder's apartment and worrying about popping a stitch. DL on the other hand, should have died since that fate is more plausible then his becoming a firefighter in less then 1 month after receiving a bullet wound in his abdominal cavity two months prior..

 

[Steel_Wind]

People heal way too quickly, Matt, DL from gun shots, Sylar from a sword through the gut. I'm willing to accept it mostly, but it gets tiresome.

Actually, Sylar's healing rate is entirely plausible. Multiple internal surgeries and four months later he's still pretty screwed up? That's about right. If anything, his incision should have healed by this point and it is only the later surgeries which explain why it has not.

Matt? Still plausible, as we only see him on his feet 16 weeks post injury. Not beyond the pale - but a little doubtful. We don't know the velocity those bullets him him at. They need not have been as destructive as bullets fired from a normal gun. (In fact, the whole feat of 4 bullets being in the air at the same time when all fired from a normal semi-automatic handgun at that range puts the event into cartoon physics land. Than again - so does telekenisis. )

DL? Bowling and training as a fireman 8 weeks after being shot in the chest? Okay - I'm with you on that one. As Ronald D. Moore would call it, that's a bit of a "TV moment"; sometimes realism must give way to the narrative of the tale.